Simple Darthipedia:Council of Blood/Log/2007 December 29

[2007-12-30 01:00:22]  whoop-ti-doo [2007-12-30 01:00:26]  Gonk: times up :P [2007-12-30 01:00:49]  Oakie Dokes [2007-12-30 01:00:50]  !greet [2007-12-30 01:00:51]  MY MASTER AND I BID YOU ALL DARTH GREETINGS [2007-12-30 01:00:53]  I BID YOU ALL DARTH GREETINGS [2007-12-30 01:01:06]  IST TIHS TEH CONCUIL FO BLOD [2007-12-30 01:01:08]  Darth Greetings [2007-12-30 01:01:14]  omg [2007-12-30 01:01:18] * TfilkrofDetalfni bids you all Dimly Lit Greetings [2007-12-30 01:01:18]  council of blood? [2007-12-30 01:01:21]  lol [2007-12-30 01:01:22]  omgblood [2007-12-30 01:01:23]  Topic 1: Random search icons [2007-12-30 01:01:27]  Cabal [2007-12-30 01:01:29]  yay [2007-12-30 01:01:42]  hmm [2007-12-30 01:01:48] <Gonk> Coranon Silaria, Ozoo Mahoke!! [2007-12-30 01:01:48] <Pinky> whos logging it? [2007-12-30 01:01:52] <Gonk> Jedimca0 [2007-12-30 01:01:53] <Grey-man> I say "YES" [2007-12-30 01:01:53] <Jedimca0> I am [2007-12-30 01:01:58] <Pinky> k [2007-12-30 01:02:00] <Gonk> Any objections to random search icons? [2007-12-30 01:02:03] <Madclaw> yay say I on #1 [2007-12-30 01:02:05] <Jedimca0> nope [2007-12-30 01:02:17] <Madclaw> no objections [2007-12-30 01:02:18] <Jedimca0> I like Random things. [2007-12-30 01:02:22] <TfilkrofDetalfni> Can I randomly chatter despite not doing anything on the wiki? [2007-12-30 01:02:37] <Gonk> well, random chatter during COBs is discouraged, but you can make comments [2007-12-30 01:02:43] <Gonk> and vote if you like :) [2007-12-30 01:02:52] <Madclaw> you could create a funny article on the Darthipedia [2007-12-30 01:02:57] <Grey-man> vote you die by blood-letting [2007-12-30 01:02:58] <Gonk> I think we should open the floodgates, and if shitty ones get made, we deal with them on a case-by-case basis. Improve them or nuke 'em. [2007-12-30 01:03:01] <Grey-man> *or you [2007-12-30 01:03:15] <Grey-man> sounds like a plan [2007-12-30 01:03:19] <Jedimca0> sounds good [2007-12-30 01:03:30] <Madclaw> yes [2007-12-30 01:03:37] <Gonk> #2 [2007-12-30 01:03:47] =-= Gonk has changed the topic to ``Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | Evil: It's the new good. | Site status: Now over 707 articles!! Take that Vongopedia!! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD Today, Midnight UTC (About ten minutes) | Moderator: Gonk - Topic: Articles about other SW humor sites'' [2007-12-30 01:03:51] <Gonk> Articles about other Star Wars humor sites. Sooner or later someone's going to create an article here about their own site, as often happens on Wookieepedia. I propose that our policy be simple: since such things aren't the goal of Darthipedia, yet a good case could be made for having articles about certain sites, we only include them if they're notable enough to have already been kept on... [2007-12-30 01:03:53] <Gonk> ...Wookieepedia. [2007-12-30 01:04:02] <Gonk> Jedimca0, was it you who had a comment about this one? [2007-12-30 01:04:15] <Jedimca0> So... if Wookieepedia hasn't got an article about Vongopedia, we won't have it either? Not a good idea, I'd say have article's about Star Wars Humor sites that either have already been kept on Wookieepedia or are our official friends... another thing... We don't have an article about Vongopedia?!? [2007-12-30 01:04:37] <Gonk> We should indeed have an article about Vongopedia. [2007-12-30 01:04:49] <Madclaw> yes [2007-12-30 01:04:55] <Grey-man> indeed [2007-12-30 01:05:01] * Grey-man volunteers Madclaw [2007-12-30 01:05:04] <Grey-man> :P [2007-12-30 01:05:06] <Jedimca0> XD [2007-12-30 01:05:07] <Janna0> XD [2007-12-30 01:05:25] <Madclaw> If only you didn't liberate us in WW2 [2007-12-30 01:05:36] <Madclaw> but sure [2007-12-30 01:05:47] <Gonk> I can foresee other "Exceptions" to this proposed "Policy," so maybe we should just not have a policy for now. Worry about it when it becomes an issue. [2007-12-30 01:06:01] <Madclaw> I will make an article about our Polish brethren [2007-12-30 01:06:02] <Grey-man> lol [2007-12-30 01:06:03] <Pinky> that sounds good to me [2007-12-30 01:06:04] <Jedimca0> I agree [2007-12-30 01:06:13] <Madclaw> so do I [2007-12-30 01:06:16] <Grey-man> sounds good, Gonk [2007-12-30 01:06:36] <Gonk> sounds like consensus [2007-12-30 01:06:44] =-= Gonk has changed the topic to ``Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | Evil: It's the new good. | Site status: Now over 707 articles!! Take that Vongopedia!! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD Today, Midnight UTC (About ten minutes) | Moderator: Gonk - Topic: Religion'' [2007-12-30 01:06:49] =-= TfilkrofDetalfni is now known as Azzt|Maths [2007-12-30 01:06:57] * Gonk wishes SG1 were here right now [2007-12-30 01:06:59] <Gonk> I don't mean to go all Quinlanfan on you, but we should discuss religion in articles, just as we did with political articles. Seriously, somebody could easily be offended by, oh, say, "Darth Jesus," which is linked to in an article. (BTW, I'm not saying I myself would be offended by this, I'm actually not. Yes, I am a Christian, but I also believe others can do whatever the hell they want.... [2007-12-30 01:07:00] <Gonk> ...That being said, I am mainly concerned for Darthipedia's sake with this.) [2007-12-30 01:07:05] <Gonk> ^ that was SG1's agenda item [2007-12-30 01:07:26] <Gonk> I have two things I wanna say about this [2007-12-30 01:07:28] * Azzt|Maths says smack religion [2007-12-30 01:07:30] <Gonk> Three, actually [2007-12-30 01:07:38] <Gonk> #1: The one true god is G*nk [2007-12-30 01:07:42] <Gonk> ;) [2007-12-30 01:08:00] <Jedimca0> I'd say it’s the same as the political ones. [2007-12-30 01:08:03] <Gonk> #2: If we did have a rule about religion, it would not be for the same reason as our politics rule. [2007-12-30 01:08:29] <Azzt|Maths> Religion is often a base for discrimination/etc [2007-12-30 01:08:33] <Madclaw> Karohalva had a nice comment on this [2007-12-30 01:08:36] <Gonk> Because with the politics one, we're more worried because these are real people [2007-12-30 01:08:36] <Madclaw> . Allow religion in articles; Support, but suggest that parodies of religious personages be discouraged. Instead, encourage parodies of religions themselves and also their institutions. Such a compromise ought to be more neutral. [2007-12-30 01:08:53] <Madclaw> per Karohalva [2007-12-30 01:08:58] <Azzt|Maths> Hmm. [2007-12-30 01:09:01] <Azzt|Maths> Point. [2007-12-30 01:09:04] <Jedimca0> about the political thing we have: "Political content in articles for the sake of bitching rather than amusing will be discouraged." [2007-12-30 01:09:06] <Grey-man> I'd say the same as Gonk, but I'll continue to deal with religion bashers on a case-by-case basis [2007-12-30 01:09:22] <Madclaw> Grey-man is right [2007-12-30 01:09:36] <Jedimca0> yes [2007-12-30 01:09:41] <Gonk> See, this is even more of a grey area than politics [2007-12-30 01:09:44] <Madclaw> depends on the actual content [2007-12-30 01:09:50] <Grey-man> ya [2007-12-30 01:10:01] <Gonk> Because someone could accuse me and Graestan of heresy, blasphemy, etc. for our little Jesus Wiki thing [2007-12-30 01:10:11] <Azzt|Maths> Like, Darth Pope :O [2007-12-30 01:10:13] <Grey-man> If we're not going to ban it all, then a case-by-case approach works best for the admins, IMO [2007-12-30 01:10:23] <Jedimca0> I agree [2007-12-30 01:10:26] <Gonk> And I would steadfastly vote against banning it entirely. [2007-12-30 01:10:31] <Grey-man> ya [2007-12-30 01:10:37] <Gonk> (that was my #3) [2007-12-30 01:10:46] <Gonk> How about this: [2007-12-30 01:11:03] <Gonk> "Religious content in articles for the sake of deliberately offending rather than amusing will be discouraged." [2007-12-30 01:11:11] <Madclaw> agreed [2007-12-30 01:11:15] <Azzt|Maths> i.e: Admin discretion [2007-12-30 01:11:22] <Azzt|Maths> me nods head [2007-12-30 01:11:25] <Jedimca0> I agree [2007-12-30 01:11:29] * Azzt|Maths nods head [2007-12-30 01:11:30] <Azzt|Maths> :P [2007-12-30 01:11:34] <Gonk> We stick up for the funny. If somebody comes up with something that's really pretty offensive, but undeniably hilarious, we should defend that author. [2007-12-30 01:11:42] <Gonk> yes, admin discretion, basically. [2007-12-30 01:11:49] <Jedimca0> per Gonk [2007-12-30 01:12:07] <Madclaw> per Jedimca0 per Gonk [2007-12-30 01:12:16] <Grey-man> whhheeeeee [2007-12-30 01:12:18] <Grey-man> sounds good [2007-12-30 01:12:25] <Gonk> our Warnings page makes it pretty clear, I think, that anyone and everyone may be offended by SOMEthing on Darthipedia. Not that we should make that a point of pride or anything, but still :) [2007-12-30 01:12:51] <Gonk> (Did Acky have any absentee votes, btw?) [2007-12-30 01:13:05] <Jedimca0> not that I know. [2007-12-30 01:13:07] <Madclaw> not by my knowledge [2007-12-30 01:13:11] <Jedimca0> wait... [2007-12-30 01:13:32] <Madclaw> Karohalva did [2007-12-30 01:13:57] <Gonk> Madclaw, wanna review his votes real quick on these last couple topics? [2007-12-30 01:13:57] <Jedimca0> http://darth.wikia.com/wiki/User:AdmirableAckbar/COB [2007-12-30 01:14:13] <Madclaw> http://darth.wikia.com/wiki/User:Karohalva [2007-12-30 01:14:16] * Gonk is checking SG1's contribs [2007-12-30 01:14:19] <Madclaw> quick enouch? [2007-12-30 01:14:36] <Gonk> Acky says "Hmmm. In banning political content from articles, we've sort of set a precedent for anything that any pillock can be offended by. Ideally, I would say anything goes, but if others want to go with the angle we took on politics (if it's intended to offend then it goes, or something like that), then I'll support that. Acky opposes complete banning of religion (on the wiki)." [2007-12-30 01:14:43] <Gonk> But I thought we didn't ban political content. [2007-12-30 01:14:55] <Jedimca0> we didn't [2007-12-30 01:15:14] <Jedimca0> we said: "Political content in articles for the sake of bitching rather than amusing will be discouraged." [2007-12-30 01:15:23] <Gonk> SG1 does not seem to have a COB page [2007-12-30 01:15:35] <Gonk> So we will treat this as unanimous then? [2007-12-30 01:15:44] <Madclaw> guess so [2007-12-30 01:15:48] <Jedimca0> I think that would be ok [2007-12-30 01:15:49] <Gonk> Hey, his vote is like, exactly what I proposed :D [2007-12-30 01:16:10] =-= Gonk has changed the topic to ``Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | Evil: It's the new good. | Site status: Now over 707 articles!! Take that Vongopedia!! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD Today, Midnight UTC (About ten minutes) | Moderator: Gonk - Topic: Friendship with Star Wars Fanon'' [2007-12-30 01:16:18] <Jedimca0> NO [2007-12-30 01:16:23] <Gonk> I vote no [2007-12-30 01:16:26] <Azzt|Maths> Eww. [2007-12-30 01:16:27] <Gonk> SG1 said: "While I was semi-supportive of this proposal, after viewing the site once more, I'd strongly oppose it. I've seen administrators such as Squishy Vic directing users to Darthipedia to send their "utter crap". Hell, they even opened up an entire forum, talking about sending their joke articles to us, when they discourage when Wookieepedia sends it's users to them." [2007-12-30 01:16:30] <Azzt|Maths> Fanon=bad [2007-12-30 01:16:34] <Gonk> Acky also strongly opposes [2007-12-30 01:16:36] <Pinky> to my utmost embarassment, I used to be associated with them, NO!!! [2007-12-30 01:16:46] <Madclaw> HELL NO [2007-12-30 01:16:47] * Gonk consoles Pinky with a tender hug [2007-12-30 01:16:51] <Gonk> We forgive you. [2007-12-30 01:16:57] <Pinky> thanks, lol [2007-12-30 01:17:30] * Gonk would like to remind everyone that voting no does not mean we are voting "yes" to becoming Official Enemies with SW Fanon [2007-12-30 01:17:38] <Madclaw> and for the sake of fragile ears i will not repeat what i said about SWFanon earlier [2007-12-30 01:17:39] <Pinky> heh [2007-12-30 01:17:43] * Gonk happens to know they have some very fine users [2007-12-30 01:17:45] <Grey-man> ENEMIES ARE COOL [2007-12-30 01:17:48] <Gonk> lol [2007-12-30 01:17:49] <Grey-man> 9_9 [2007-12-30 01:17:58] <Madclaw> per Grey-man [2007-12-30 01:18:00] <Grey-man> lol [2007-12-30 01:18:23] <Jedimca0> I have to say no to this. [2007-12-30 01:18:27] * Gonk also thinks anyone here who visits SWFanon -- and you need not confess -- should keep an eye open for users who should be invited to the Darth Side [2007-12-30 01:18:42] <Madclaw> I already made a nice related article about SWFanon [2007-12-30 01:18:55] <Jedimca0> Back to the topic [2007-12-30 01:19:02] <Madclaw> yes lets [2007-12-30 01:19:06] <Grey-man> is this about making SWFanon a friend? [2007-12-30 01:19:09] =-= Gonk has changed the topic to ``Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | Evil: It's the new good. | Site status: Now over 707 articles!! Take that Vongopedia!! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD Today, Midnight UTC (About ten minutes) | Moderator: Gonk - Topic: Jediism Wiki'' [2007-12-30 01:19:14] <Gonk> it was, Grey [2007-12-30 01:19:15] <Grey-man> ... [2007-12-30 01:19:17] <Grey-man> oh [2007-12-30 01:19:18] <Gonk> And it seems to have failed [2007-12-30 01:19:25] <Grey-man> I missed it, but I say no... [2007-12-30 01:19:27] <Grey-man> :P [2007-12-30 01:19:31] <Grey-man> Jediism Wiki [2007-12-30 01:19:33] <Grey-man> new topic [2007-12-30 01:19:36] <Grey-man> lets go, people! [2007-12-30 01:19:37] <Madclaw> BOMB EM [2007-12-30 01:19:47] <Gonk> I don't think we want to try to extend the olive branch of friendship to the Jediism Wiki. They wouldn't like it, I expect. [2007-12-30 01:19:47] <Janna0> No! Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try. [2007-12-30 01:19:47] * Azzt|Maths slap [2007-12-30 01:20:01] <Jedimca0> From Acky: Dunno. Make an article on them, anyway. [2007-12-30 01:20:08] <Azzt|Maths> Heh. [2007-12-30 01:20:12] <Azzt|Maths> God idea. [2007-12-30 01:20:14] <Madclaw> i suggest grey-man [2007-12-30 01:20:15] =-= Janna0 was booted from #darthipedia by Gonk (Gonk) [2007-12-30 01:20:16] -->| Janna0 (n=jedimca0@cp1082200-a.ndwrt1.lb.home.nl) has joined #darthipedia [2007-12-30 01:20:22] <Azzt|Maths> Like Uncyc's article on wikipedia XD [2007-12-30 01:20:23] <Janna0> XD [2007-12-30 01:20:32] <Madclaw> let him make the article [2007-12-30 01:20:32] <Grey-man> heh [2007-12-30 01:20:42] <Grey-man> nah, I'm busy :P [2007-12-30 01:20:52] <Madclaw> excuses excuses [2007-12-30 01:20:56] <Gonk> Yes, we should have an article on Jediists. But it should be *Actually funny* [2007-12-30 01:21:03] <Jedimca0> I agree [2007-12-30 01:21:05] * Gonk just had an idea [2007-12-30 01:21:11] <Madclaw> due tell [2007-12-30 01:21:14] * Gonk will write the Jediism article [2007-12-30 01:21:18] <Grey-man> heh [2007-12-30 01:21:19] <Gonk> It's a surprise :) [2007-12-30 01:21:28] <Madclaw> will it invole G*nkism? [2007-12-30 01:21:32] <Gonk> Nope [2007-12-30 01:21:40] <Madclaw> 0_0 [2007-12-30 01:21:52] <Gonk> Are we done with this topic, then? (I'm not quite sure what was being proposed anyway :) ) [2007-12-30 01:22:02] <Jedimca0> So.... we agree.... no war? [2007-12-30 01:22:03] <Madclaw> yes [2007-12-30 01:22:09] <Gonk> No war... FOR NOW [2007-12-30 01:22:14] <Gonk> er, FOR NOW [2007-12-30 01:22:16] <Madclaw> no war *sniff* [2007-12-30 01:22:22] * Azzt|Maths stockpiles WJWD [2007-12-30 01:22:47] =-= Gonk has changed the topic to ``Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | Evil: It's the new good. | Site status: Now over 707 articles!! Take that Vongopedia!! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD Today, Midnight UTC (About ten minutes) | Moderator: Gonk - Topic: Revival and transfer of some of SWFanon's best articles'' [2007-12-30 01:22:51] <Gonk> WWJWD? [2007-12-30 01:22:53] <Azzt|Maths> hee [2007-12-30 01:22:58] <Azzt|Maths> WJWD: [2007-12-30 01:23:09] <Azzt|Maths> Weapons of Jediism Wiki Destruction >) [2007-12-30 01:23:19] <Gonk> WWWJWDD? [2007-12-30 01:23:24] <Azzt|Maths> XD [2007-12-30 01:23:24] <Janna0> XD [2007-12-30 01:23:24] <Madclaw> BOWS DOWN [2007-12-30 01:23:32] <Jedimca0> lol [2007-12-30 01:23:55] <Jedimca0> ok, copy SWFanon articles..... [2007-12-30 01:23:56] <Gonk> I say anyone who wants to is 100% free to copy those articles over. [2007-12-30 01:24:07] <Jedimca0> From Acky: Copy funny articles to here with author's consent. [2007-12-30 01:24:11] <Azzt|Maths> and 'fix' [2007-12-30 01:24:11] <Gonk> Per policy set at the last COB [2007-12-30 01:24:18] <Madclaw> with or withour permission from author? [2007-12-30 01:24:21] <Jedimca0> I agree with Acky. [2007-12-30 01:24:35] <Madclaw> so do i [2007-12-30 01:24:39] <Grey-man> me2 [2007-12-30 01:24:40] * Azzt|Maths nods head [2007-12-30 01:24:41] <Gonk> Yes, let's try to get permission [2007-12-30 01:24:42] <Janna0> No! Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try. [2007-12-30 01:24:49] * Gonk glares at the bot [2007-12-30 01:24:50] <Azzt|Maths> lol [2007-12-30 01:24:56] <Jedimca0> ok... I'll remove that trigger for now. :) [2007-12-30 01:25:05] <Gonk> Thanks you :) [2007-12-30 01:25:08] <Azzt|Maths> Use attempt instead of try [2007-12-30 01:25:08] <Janna0> No! Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try. [2007-12-30 01:25:09] <Gonk> *Thank [2007-12-30 01:25:12] <Azzt|Maths> :O [2007-12-30 01:25:13] <Pinky> heh [2007-12-30 01:25:16] <Madclaw> XD [2007-12-30 01:25:16] <Gonk> I'll try to use attempt. [2007-12-30 01:25:16] <Janna0> XD [2007-12-30 01:25:16] <Janna0> No! Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try. [2007-12-30 01:25:21] <Gonk> D'oh!! [2007-12-30 01:25:36] <Azzt|Maths> Fracking math. [2007-12-30 01:25:39] <Gonk> Back on topic, any objections to transferring the lost funny stuff from SWFanon? [2007-12-30 01:25:43] <Jedimca0> try it now. :) [2007-12-30 01:25:47] <Madclaw> yay [2007-12-30 01:25:48] <Azzt|Maths> try [2007-12-30 01:25:51] <Azzt|Maths> :P [2007-12-30 01:26:23] <Gonk> I hear none. So whoever gets around to that, can do that. [2007-12-30 01:26:30] <Gonk> I know 4dot wrote one of those, so I'll ask him. [2007-12-30 01:26:38] <Jedimca0> great. :D [2007-12-30 01:26:53] =-= Gonk has changed the topic to ``Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | Evil: It's the new good. | Site status: Now over 707 articles!! Take that Vongopedia!! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD Today, Midnight UTC (About ten minutes) | Moderator: Gonk - Topic: Clarifying and codifying the policy revision voting process (2/3rds or simple majority? what about admin/BC votes? things like that).'' [2007-12-30 01:27:00] <Azzt|Maths> Inflatable forklifts!!!11!!!!1!1!! [2007-12-30 01:27:36] <Gonk> In some respects, this is not terribly huge right now, as we have few users and fewer admins. [2007-12-30 01:27:57] <Jedimca0> I think Gonk should have veto rights [2007-12-30 01:27:58] <Gonk> But at some point, our admins will disagree. [2007-12-30 01:27:59] <Madclaw> so simple majority then [2007-12-30 01:28:06] * Azzt|Maths reminds self to contribure in spare time [2007-12-30 01:28:10] <Gonk> This also comes into play for appointing new admins [2007-12-30 01:28:11] <Azzt|Maths> *contribute [2007-12-30 01:28:24] <Gonk> do both Riff and Whiteboy have veto rights at Wook? [2007-12-30 01:28:29] <Madclaw> Veto rights sounds good [2007-12-30 01:28:34] <Jedimca0> I think they do. [2007-12-30 01:28:39] <Gonk> does Imp? [2007-12-30 01:28:48] <Azzt|Maths> umm [2007-12-30 01:28:55] <Jedimca0> don't know [2007-12-30 01:29:21] <Gonk> And are we talking about veto rights on *every* vote? [2007-12-30 01:29:36] <Pinky> I don't honestly like the idea of veto rights, but thats just me ;) [2007-12-30 01:29:44] =-= Gonk has changed the topic to ``Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | Evil: It's the new good. | Site status: Now over 707 articles!! Take that Vongopedia!! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD Now | Moderator: Gonk - Topic: Clarifying and codifying the policy revision voting process (2/3rds or simple majority? what about admin/BC votes? things like that).'' [2007-12-30 01:30:11] <Azzt|Maths> How many 'crats are there? [2007-12-30 01:30:11] <Gonk> I'm not comfortable with it myself, Pinky :) but I don't know if I'll veto it or not yet XD [2007-12-30 01:30:12] <Janna0> XD [2007-12-30 01:30:17] <Gonk> Just me, Azzt [2007-12-30 01:30:20] <Azzt|Maths> Ah. [2007-12-30 01:30:20] <Jedimca0> You should be able to oppose like any of us... But if you really have strong feelings about something, you should be able kill it. [2007-12-30 01:30:24] <Azzt|Maths> That's bad. [2007-12-30 01:30:37] <Azzt|Maths> If you have 3 active, then crat majority veto wins. [2007-12-30 01:30:51] <Gonk> yes, the triumvirate system [2007-12-30 01:31:06] <Jedimca0> so..... you can just oppose... or kill it with one vote. [2007-12-30 01:31:11] * Gonk plans to nominate a couple new BCs at some time in the future [2007-12-30 01:31:24] <Azzt|Maths> How many admins? [2007-12-30 01:31:27] <Grey-man> \o/ for the triumvirate [2007-12-30 01:31:29] <Grey-man> :P [2007-12-30 01:31:32] <Gonk> how many do we have now? uhh [2007-12-30 01:31:37] <Gonk> ...5? 6? [2007-12-30 01:31:40] <Grey-man> about that [2007-12-30 01:31:42] <Grey-man> ya [2007-12-30 01:31:43] <Azzt|Maths> Hm. [2007-12-30 01:31:46] <Azzt|Maths> Then... [2007-12-30 01:32:03] <Gonk> We are getting close to the point where we could use another admin [2007-12-30 01:32:12] <Grey-man> ya [2007-12-30 01:32:14] <Gonk> 7 admins currently. [2007-12-30 01:32:17] <Madclaw> yes [2007-12-30 01:32:19] <Gonk> SoT is MIA. [2007-12-30 01:32:21] <Azzt|Maths> say majority of crat+admin is veto, admin get 1 vote, crat gets 2 [2007-12-30 01:32:29] <Azzt|Maths> or summat [2007-12-30 01:32:37] <Jedimca0> that sounds good to me [2007-12-30 01:32:42] <Azzt|Maths> [2007-12-30 01:32:44] <Azzt|Maths> :P [2007-12-30 01:32:53] <Azzt|Maths> Something like that [2007-12-30 01:33:02] <Madclaw> sounds good to me [2007-12-30 01:33:04] <Gonk> Maybe that for now, and BC veto rights later when we have more than one? [2007-12-30 01:33:10] <Azzt|Maths> Indeed. [2007-12-30 01:33:15] <Jedimca0> yes [2007-12-30 01:33:19] <Gonk> Sounds good to me [2007-12-30 01:33:24] <Azzt|Maths> Keeps Gonk from being able to take over everything :P [2007-12-30 01:33:32] <Gonk> POWAAAAAHHHHHHH... Oh, was that out loud? [2007-12-30 01:33:39] <Azzt|Maths> Maybe. :P [2007-12-30 01:33:40] <Jedimca0> lol [2007-12-30 01:33:45] <Grey-man> powah...wheee [2007-12-30 01:33:59] <Gonk> Now what constitutes a winning vote count, then? [2007-12-30 01:34:09] <Madclaw> bribing admins [2007-12-30 01:34:13] |<-- Ineedaname has left freenode [2007-12-30 01:34:18] <Madclaw> just like democracy [2007-12-30 01:34:19] <Grey-man> 2/3 supermajority? [2007-12-30 01:34:22] <Gonk> So far everything's been pretty much unanimous, so we've been lucky [2007-12-30 01:34:26] <Grey-man> heh [2007-12-30 01:34:28] <Gonk> Grey: is that how most wikis do it? [2007-12-30 01:34:31] <Azzt|Maths> umm [2007-12-30 01:34:39] <Azzt|Maths> if 7 and 1 crat, total.... [2007-12-30 01:34:41] <Grey-man> Gonk > For the most part, ya [2007-12-30 01:34:50] <Grey-man> there are some odd balls [2007-12-30 01:34:52] <Grey-man> like SWFanon [2007-12-30 01:34:56] <Grey-man> and Halopedia [2007-12-30 01:34:59] <Grey-man> where dictators run rampant [2007-12-30 01:35:04] <Grey-man> [2007-12-30 01:35:08] <Azzt|Maths> make it 6/10 veto [2007-12-30 01:35:11] <Gonk> RAMPANT DICTATORS! [2007-12-30 01:35:14] <Grey-man> lol [2007-12-30 01:35:16] <Azzt|Maths> and crat worth 2 [2007-12-30 01:36:13] <Jedimca0> yes [2007-12-30 01:36:14] <Gonk> ok, and 2/3rds for a win (that includes nonadmin votes)? [2007-12-30 01:36:38] <Azzt|Maths> sure [2007-12-30 01:36:41] <Grey-man> ya [2007-12-30 01:36:44] <Madclaw> ok [2007-12-30 01:36:45] <Jedimca0> for now. [2007-12-30 01:36:52] <Jedimca0> untill we get more users [2007-12-30 01:36:55] <Gonk> sounds like consensus [2007-12-30 01:36:56] <Madclaw> for now [2007-12-30 01:36:57] <Grey-man> and once we get huge, then it can be split up [2007-12-30 01:37:04] <Gonk> Yes, when we get huge, some of this will need to chaneg [2007-12-30 01:37:06] <Gonk> *change [2007-12-30 01:37:09] <Grey-man> 2/3 users, 2/3 admins, etc [2007-12-30 01:37:20] <Grey-man> but, we can deal with that when it happens :D [2007-12-30 01:37:29] * Grey-man loves big Wikias [2007-12-30 01:37:30] * Gonk nods [2007-12-30 01:38:00] <Gonk> ok, no #8 [2007-12-30 01:38:03] <Gonk> so on to #9 [2007-12-30 01:38:24] =-= Gonk has changed the topic to ``Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | Evil: It's the new good. | Site status: Now over 707 articles!! Take that Vongopedia!! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD Now | Moderator: Gonk - Topic: http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User:Toughpigs#Everybody_needs_a_user_name'' [2007-12-30 01:38:26] <Madclaw> the username policy [2007-12-30 01:38:37] <Madclaw> I like it [2007-12-30 01:38:47] <Azzt|Maths> Eh? [2007-12-30 01:38:49] <Grey-man> eh [2007-12-30 01:38:49] <Pinky> I don't really [2007-12-30 01:38:52] <Grey-man> FU Toughpigs [2007-12-30 01:38:54] <Grey-man> and yes [2007-12-30 01:38:56] <Grey-man> I know he's my boss [2007-12-30 01:39:04] <Gonk> and you know this is for posterity? :) [2007-12-30 01:39:06] <Grey-man> I say no to that [2007-12-30 01:39:12] <Grey-man> Gonk > Yes [2007-12-30 01:39:14] <Grey-man> :P [2007-12-30 01:39:16] <Gonk> Those voting no: Explain [2007-12-30 01:39:25] <Azzt|Maths> Hm. [2007-12-30 01:39:28] <Jedimca0> From Acky: Hmmmm. Interesting idea yes, but, at this stage, completely pointless for Darthipedia, IMHO. We've not had much vandalism and the vandalism we have had hasn't been from anons. This would probably fall under the unnecessary and restricting rules thing I despise. Oppose, at least for now. [2007-12-30 01:39:28] <Azzt|Maths> Interesting. [2007-12-30 01:39:34] <Grey-man> Same reason it got voted down on Wookieepedia [2007-12-30 01:39:36] <Azzt|Maths> Is there much of a vandal problem? [2007-12-30 01:39:36] <Janna0> All vandals will be blocked by my Master or one of the other Admins and their vandalism will be reverted. [2007-12-30 01:39:44] <Azzt|Maths> lol [2007-12-30 01:39:46] <Gonk> Azzt: not yet [2007-12-30 01:39:47] <Grey-man> I don't like forcing people to create an account [2007-12-30 01:39:50] <Azzt|Maths> K. [2007-12-30 01:39:53] <Pinky> exactly [2007-12-30 01:39:57] <Azzt|Maths> I say no if it's not major [2007-12-30 01:40:30] <Grey-man> I prefer giving anons a welcome template saying "You should sign up and join the fun" [2007-12-30 01:40:34] <Jedimca0> I think it's a good idea... but not necessarily needed. [2007-12-30 01:40:40] <Gonk> I agree with that Grey [2007-12-30 01:40:41] <Pinky> per Grey [2007-12-30 01:40:43] <Grey-man> that way, it is their decision to join the Wikia, and not forced upon them [2007-12-30 01:40:47] <Gonk> and I vote no for now but if vandalism becomes rampant, we may want to revisit this. [2007-12-30 01:40:48] <Janna0> All vandals will be blocked by my Master or one of the other Admins and their vandalism will be reverted. [2007-12-30 01:40:50] <Grey-man> which could drive away users [2007-12-30 01:40:54] <Grey-man> *potential users [2007-12-30 01:41:01] <Pinky> indeed [2007-12-30 01:41:05] <Gonk> I think Wookieepedia could actually maybe use this :) but that's just my frustration [2007-12-30 01:41:07] <Madclaw> good point [2007-12-30 01:41:09] <Grey-man> heh [2007-12-30 01:41:11] <Jedimca0> I agree [2007-12-30 01:41:19] <Gonk> certainly the last thing we want to do is drive away users. [2007-12-30 01:41:24] <Madclaw> true [2007-12-30 01:41:28] <Gonk> Any remaining support votes on this? [2007-12-30 01:41:34] <Madclaw> not anymore [2007-12-30 01:42:15] <Madclaw> Grey-man got me thinking with his"forceing people' comment [2007-12-30 01:42:29] <Gonk> I have always thought this wiki would attract a lot of vandals [2007-12-30 01:42:30] <Janna0> All vandals will be blocked by my Master or one of the other Admins and their vandalism will be reverted. [2007-12-30 01:42:32] <Grey-man> ... [2007-12-30 01:42:35] <Gonk> But it hasn't happened yet, so *shrug* [2007-12-30 01:42:36] =-= Janna0 was booted from #darthipedia by Grey-man (Grey-man) [2007-12-30 01:42:37] -->| Janna0 (n=jedimca0@cp1082200-a.ndwrt1.lb.home.nl) has joined #darthipedia [2007-12-30 01:42:47] <Azzt|Maths> :O [2007-12-30 01:43:01] <Grey-man> ooooh, I was just about to autorem the bot, but then realized she shares Jedimca0's addres [2007-12-30 01:43:02] <Gonk> I'm skipping #10 because it's close to #12 [2007-12-30 01:43:03] <Grey-man> lol [2007-12-30 01:43:11] <Jedimca0> XD [2007-12-30 01:43:12] <Janna0> XD [2007-12-30 01:43:21] <Grey-man> :P [2007-12-30 01:43:22] =-= Gonk has changed the topic to ``Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | Evil: It's the new good. | Site status: Now over 707 articles!! Take that Vongopedia!! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD Now | Moderator: Gonk - Topic: Establishing admin election process'' [2007-12-30 01:43:32] <Gonk> Did we basically cover this already? [2007-12-30 01:43:34] <Grey-man> does anyone have one drawn up? [2007-12-30 01:43:54] <Gonk> All we have right now is prereqs [2007-12-30 01:43:57] <Grey-man> ah [2007-12-30 01:44:03] <Grey-man> well, I like the ideas of questions [2007-12-30 01:44:06] * Gonk plans to draw up a List of Voluntary Questions similar to Wook's [2007-12-30 01:44:12] <--| Janna0 has left #darthipedia (requested by Pinky: "Auf Wiedersehen!") [2007-12-30 01:44:14] <Grey-man> and anywhere longer than a 1 week waiting period is the norm [2007-12-30 01:44:26] <Jedimca0> I'd say at this point all other admins (that have voted) have to support, and a majority of the regular users. [2007-12-30 01:44:33] <Grey-man> ya [2007-12-30 01:44:37] <Madclaw> yes [2007-12-30 01:44:41] <Gonk> 1 week waiting period? [2007-12-30 01:44:47] <Jedimca0> sounds good [2007-12-30 01:44:49] <Gonk> Per Jedimca0 [2007-12-30 01:45:04] <Grey-man> Gonk > On the Wook it is 2 weeks...some wikia have it at 1 week, and then you're an admin if it's successful. [2007-12-30 01:45:10] <Gonk> ahhhh [2007-12-30 01:45:12] <Pinky> hmm, or maybe 2/3 admin support [2007-12-30 01:45:12] <Gonk> right [2007-12-30 01:45:15] <Grey-man> greater than 1 week is preferred for smaller Wikia [2007-12-30 01:45:22] <Grey-man> because it allows more users to see the Rfa [2007-12-30 01:45:32] <Grey-man> over a greater period of time [2007-12-30 01:45:38] <Gonk> right [2007-12-30 01:45:47] <Gonk> I like 2 weeks. [2007-12-30 01:45:53] <Grey-man> it's not a problem with large Wikia because so many users are around [2007-12-30 01:45:56] <Grey-man> 2 weeks is good [2007-12-30 01:45:58] <Madclaw> 2 weeks sounds god [2007-12-30 01:46:10] <Gonk> God?! HERETIC!! [2007-12-30 01:46:16] <Jedimca0> I agree, more people will see it. [2007-12-30 01:46:57] <Gonk> So we have to decide whether it's "no admin 'No' votes" or "2/3rds of admins voting vote support" [2007-12-30 01:47:07] * Gonk is on the fence on this one. [2007-12-30 01:47:24] <Grey-man> I'm open to hear arguments for or against [2007-12-30 01:47:24] <Azzt|Maths> Uhm. [2007-12-30 01:47:26] <Azzt|Maths> Majority [2007-12-30 01:47:43] <Madclaw> still thinking [2007-12-30 01:47:58] <Pinky> I like 2/3 or majority, cuz I just don't like the idea that one admin can screw it [2007-12-30 01:48:10] * Azzt|Maths nods head [2007-12-30 01:48:24] <Jedimca0> I'd say for now all admins (that have voted) have to support, when we have more admins we can change it. [2007-12-30 01:48:50] <Jedimca0> But.... that's just an idea. [2007-12-30 01:48:54] <Gonk> Jedimca0: why? [2007-12-30 01:49:11] <Madclaw> 2/3 or sounds good to me [2007-12-30 01:49:19] <Jedimca0> at this moment all admins seem to always... or almost always agree... [2007-12-30 01:49:57] <Gonk> Yes, that's true [2007-12-30 01:50:33] <Jedimca0> And there is just a few active admins at the moment. [2007-12-30 01:50:37] <Jedimca0> *are [2007-12-30 01:50:46] <Madclaw> also good point [2007-12-30 01:51:04] <Jedimca0> if we have more, I just feel we have to agree about who that new admin will be. [2007-12-30 01:51:41] <Azzt|Maths> Who wants to call coin flip? [2007-12-30 01:51:48] <Gonk> I understand that feeling, Jedimca0, and to an extent I share it [2007-12-30 01:52:02] <Azzt|Maths> :P [2007-12-30 01:52:10] <Gonk> On the other hand, I worry that "no admin votes 'No'" could lead to an old boys' network sort of thing. [2007-12-30 01:52:19] <Azzt|Maths> Mhmm. [2007-12-30 01:52:30] <Jedimca0> I understand that too. [2007-12-30 01:52:38] <Grey-man> CABAL! [2007-12-30 01:52:42] <Gonk> Even though we're not growing especially quickly, we may not want to set a dangerous precedent [2007-12-30 01:52:49] <Gonk> How about a compromise: [2007-12-30 01:52:53] <Grey-man> 2/3 sounds good to me [2007-12-30 01:52:55] <Gonk> No 2 admins vote "no." [2007-12-30 01:52:56] <Madclaw> postpone this decision until sg1 and acky can comment on this [2007-12-30 01:53:00] <Gonk> That's practically 2/3rds anyway [2007-12-30 01:53:05] <Jedimca0> Yes [2007-12-30 01:53:09] <Gonk> mm, yes, per Madclaw. [2007-12-30 01:53:14] <Gonk> This is important enough to table for now. [2007-12-30 01:53:21] <Jedimca0> I agree [2007-12-30 01:53:22] <Azzt|Maths> Mhmm. [2007-12-30 01:53:36] =-= Gonk has changed the topic to ``Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | Evil: It's the new good. | Site status: Now over 707 articles!! Take that Vongopedia!! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD Now | Moderator: Gonk - Topic: Evil Genius of the Month'' [2007-12-30 01:53:44] <Jedimca0> SUPPORT [2007-12-30 01:53:52] <Gonk> It already passed, didn't it? [2007-12-30 01:53:54] <Madclaw> support [2007-12-30 01:53:56] =-= Azzt|Maths is now known as Azzt|Maths|Writi [2007-12-30 01:54:01] <Azzt|Maths|Writi> o_O [2007-12-30 01:54:10] <Madclaw> Demagol of the month [2007-12-30 01:54:22] =-= Azzt|Maths|Writi is now known as tzzA [2007-12-30 01:54:33] <Grey-man> suuupport [2007-12-30 01:54:54] <tzzA> lol [2007-12-30 01:55:05] <Gonk> yes, we did pass this already [2007-12-30 01:55:16] <Gonk> It was on the agenda more to ensure that somebody do something about it. [2007-12-30 01:55:19] <Pinky> Kyle Katarn of the Month lol [2007-12-30 01:55:21] <Madclaw> hold up [2007-12-30 01:55:25] <tzzA> :P [2007-12-30 01:55:32] <tzzA> Katarn! [2007-12-30 01:55:33] <Madclaw> on topic 10 that we skipped [2007-12-30 01:55:34] <Gonk> I propose that we format it much like Wookieepedia does. Simple little box on the main page. [2007-12-30 01:55:48] <Jedimca0> I agree [2007-12-30 01:55:50] <Gonk> yes? an idea? [2007-12-30 01:55:58] <Madclaw> there was also a mention about non-sith good articles [2007-12-30 01:56:09] <Pinky> heh [2007-12-30 01:56:20] <Madclaw> like featured sith wannabe [2007-12-30 01:56:26] <Gonk> Did we ever come up with a name for those? [2007-12-30 01:56:33] <Jedimca0> I like that name [2007-12-30 01:56:41] <Madclaw> kARO MADE IT UP [2007-12-30 01:57:05] <Jedimca0> but..... can we use it for articles planets? [2007-12-30 01:57:14] <Gonk> or vehicles :/ [2007-12-30 01:57:30] <Madclaw> true [2007-12-30 01:57:34] <Jedimca0> the name does sound good.... [2007-12-30 01:57:43] <Gonk> We could always go whole-hog Pythonesque silly and call them "Not-Quite-as-Sucky-as-Most Articles" [2007-12-30 01:57:47] <Madclaw> keep the name for characters then [2007-12-30 01:57:50] <tzzA> Heh. [2007-12-30 01:57:59] <tzzA> @Gonk [2007-12-30 01:58:04] <Gonk> The name needs to be all-inclusive [2007-12-30 01:58:16] <Jedimca0> I agree [2007-12-30 01:58:19] <Gonk> Shall we move this discussion to our underused forums? :) [2007-12-30 01:58:29] <Jedimca0> Good idea [2007-12-30 01:58:31] <Madclaw> yes lets [2007-12-30 01:58:39] =-= Gonk has changed the topic to ``Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | Evil: It's the new good. | Site status: Now over 707 articles!! Take that Vongopedia!! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD Now | Moderator: Gonk - Topic: IDrive OR link to our Articles That Need Improving category OR neither.'' [2007-12-30 01:58:54] <Madclaw> support [2007-12-30 01:58:59] <Gonk> I support the middle one. [2007-12-30 01:59:02] <Jedimca0> Articles That Need Improving category, since I made that, and I think it would work, if it got more attention. [2007-12-30 01:59:18] <Jedimca0> perhaps a link on the main page? [2007-12-30 01:59:21] <tzzA> Mhmm. [2007-12-30 01:59:22] <Gonk> In fact I support a whole Community-type box on the main page and Articles That Need Improving being one of its key features. [2007-12-30 01:59:37] <Jedimca0> Per Gonk [2007-12-30 01:59:47] <Grey-man> sounds good [2007-12-30 01:59:54] <Madclaw> yes [2007-12-30 02:00:08] <Jedimca0> also we need to clean up our trash compactor.... [2007-12-30 02:00:26] <Jedimca0> which is part of the Articles That Need Improving thing. [2007-12-30 02:00:26] <Gonk> yeah [2007-12-30 02:00:33] <Madclaw> should a user or admin supervise articles that need to be improved [2007-12-30 02:00:35] <Madclaw> ? [2007-12-30 02:00:37] <Gonk> And I'd prefer a name that doesn't come from Wookieepedia [2007-12-30 02:00:52] <Gonk> *for the TC [2007-12-30 02:00:58] <Jedimca0> I'm already checking the category for new things everyweek [2007-12-30 02:00:59] <Madclaw> how about Sarlac Pit [2007-12-30 02:01:02] <Gonk> Madclaw: we'd have to [2007-12-30 02:01:10] <Gonk> Ooo, Sarlacc Pit, I like it [2007-12-30 02:01:20] <Madclaw> Pit of Carcoon? [2007-12-30 02:01:23] <Jedimca0> put I don't want to add new things to the TC untill it gets more attention. [2007-12-30 02:01:31] <Jedimca0> *but [2007-12-30 02:01:37] <Gonk> Nah, Sarlacc Pit sounds eviller. [2007-12-30 02:01:44] <Madclaw> true [2007-12-30 02:01:45] <Jedimca0> yes it does [2007-12-30 02:01:51] <Gonk> Anybody not like Sarlacc Pit? [2007-12-30 02:01:57] <Madclaw> i suggest we put Boba Fett in there first [2007-12-30 02:02:06] <Madclaw> would he escape again? [2007-12-30 02:02:09] <Madclaw> lol [2007-12-30 02:02:18] <Gonk> afk a minute [2007-12-30 02:02:36] * Jedimca0 will volunteer to supervise articles that need to be improved if that is needed. [2007-12-30 02:03:01] <Madclaw> second that [2007-12-30 02:04:34] =-= tzzA is now known as Azzt|Undead [2007-12-30 02:08:10] <Jedimca0> ...... [2007-12-30 02:08:16] <Gonk> one sec [2007-12-30 02:09:51] <Gonk> ok, back [2007-12-30 02:09:54] <Gonk> (phone call) [2007-12-30 02:10:14] <Jedimca0> ah [2007-12-30 02:10:28] <Gonk> Anybody opposing Articles That Need Improving link on main page? in lieu of IDrive? [2007-12-30 02:10:39] <Madclaw> no [2007-12-30 02:10:59] <Jedimca0> you missed me volunteering to supervise the articles that need to be improved [2007-12-30 02:11:01] * Gonk has one new topic to briefly cover when we are done [2007-12-30 02:11:08] <Gonk> I saw that, and yes, the more the merrier [2007-12-30 02:11:16] * Gonk plans to review those from time to time as well [2007-12-30 02:11:49] =-= Gonk has changed the topic to ``Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | Evil: It's the new good. | Site status: Now over 707 articles!! Take that Vongopedia!! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD Now | Moderator: Gonk - Topic: People that only edit their userpage; what do we do with them? Lock their userpage until they contribute usefully?'' [2007-12-30 02:11:57] <Azzt|Undead> Same as Wook. [2007-12-30 02:12:03] <Jedimca0> ah, my last minute thing [2007-12-30 02:12:39] <Jedimca0> I'd say lock their page.... but when do we lock it? [2007-12-30 02:12:51] <Jedimca0> how many edits are we talking about. [2007-12-30 02:13:03] <Gonk> on the wook: "Excessive user page editing, in this case, is defined as over 500 user page edits to less than 100 useful main space/template/category edits. (To check your edit count, enter your user name at Special:Editcount.)" [2007-12-30 02:13:35] <Jedimca0> so it will only work if someone has 600 edits? [2007-12-30 02:13:50] <Madclaw> we need to narrow that down a bit [2007-12-30 02:13:55] <Azzt|Undead> Well, less #s [2007-12-30 02:14:00] <Azzt|Undead> But same principe [2007-12-30 02:14:04] <Azzt|Undead> *principle [2007-12-30 02:14:14] <Madclaw> i agree [2007-12-30 02:14:30] <Gonk> Grey-man, Pinky? [2007-12-30 02:14:57] <Grey-man> sorrry, what's the question? [2007-12-30 02:15:10] <Gonk> Excessive userpage edits [2007-12-30 02:15:45] <Gonk> I almost think we should keep those ridiculously high numbers, since ours is a "fun" wiki [2007-12-30 02:16:15] <Madclaw> per g*nk [2007-12-30 02:16:22] <Madclaw> lol [2007-12-30 02:16:49] <Azzt|Undead> Meh. [2007-12-30 02:16:55] <Azzt|Undead> Depends on type of edits, really. [2007-12-30 02:17:17] <Madclaw> how about a 100-20 ratio? [2007-12-30 02:17:18] <Gonk> We'd have to rephrase our policy from Wook's, since on Darth, there IS no such thing as a "useful edit" ;) [2007-12-30 02:17:52] <Jedimca0> Xd [2007-12-30 02:17:54] <Jedimca0> XD [2007-12-30 02:18:07] <Madclaw> or simly warn them when a fact like this is discovered [2007-12-30 02:18:18] <Gonk> well, first off, I move that such users must always be warned before any further punitive action is taken. [2007-12-30 02:18:34] <Azzt|Undead> XD [2007-12-30 02:18:37] <Azzt|Undead> Useful lol [2007-12-30 02:18:59] <Madclaw> also postpone untill sg1 and acky can comment [2007-12-30 02:19:05] <Jedimca0> I agree with Gonk, we should warn first [2007-12-30 02:19:10] <Gonk> Yeah, let's make it a forum thread. [2007-12-30 02:19:17] <Jedimca0> ok [2007-12-30 02:19:27] <Gonk> ok, my even-more-last-minute topic [2007-12-30 02:19:54] <Azzt|Undead> Mmm :? [2007-12-30 02:20:00] =-= Gonk has changed the topic to ``Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | Evil: It's the new good. | Site status: Now over 707 articles!! Take that Vongopedia!! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD Now | Moderator: Gonk - Topic: New admins being active on IRC: required? strongly encouraged? neither?'' [2007-12-30 02:20:14] <Grey-man> bah! [2007-12-30 02:20:18] <Madclaw> strongly encouraged [2007-12-30 02:20:20] <Grey-man> kill users with excessive user page edits [2007-12-30 02:20:22] <Grey-man> my bad [2007-12-30 02:20:26] <Gonk> lol [2007-12-30 02:20:28] <Grey-man> have about 20 different things going on [2007-12-30 02:20:30] <Grey-man> 9_9 [2007-12-30 02:20:31] <Jedimca0> strongly encouraged [2007-12-30 02:20:39] <Grey-man> yes [2007-12-30 02:20:45] <Grey-man> IRC = strong admins, IMO [2007-12-30 02:20:53] <Grey-man> or, helps build good admins [2007-12-30 02:21:00] <Grey-man> who are knowledgable about the community [2007-12-30 02:21:01] <Azzt|Undead> Strongly encouraged. [2007-12-30 02:21:02] <Jedimca0> I agree [2007-12-30 02:21:03] <Grey-man> and what's going on [2007-12-30 02:21:14] <Gonk> I think an argument could be made for requiring. Ours being a more subjective and interpersonal wiki than the Wook. [2007-12-30 02:21:16] <Azzt|Undead> It's where the non-existent cabal is o_o [2007-12-30 02:21:40] <Jedimca0> per Gonk [2007-12-30 02:22:05] <Madclaw> yes why not [2007-12-30 02:22:08] <Grey-man> ya [2007-12-30 02:22:13] <Grey-man> and [2007-12-30 02:22:22] * Gonk is trying to think of a reason why not... and not yet succeeding [2007-12-30 02:22:30] <Grey-man> those who I would vote support for future RFA's, I'd like to know them [2007-12-30 02:22:44] <Madclaw> good point [2007-12-30 02:23:17] <Jedimca0> I don't think I would nominate a person for admin who hasn't been on IRC [2007-12-30 02:23:26] <Jedimca0> but that's just me. [2007-12-30 02:23:42] <Grey-man> so, ya...if a user wants to be an admin, then they should be active on IRC [2007-12-30 02:23:49] <Grey-man> helping out, talking, getting to know current admins [2007-12-30 02:24:01] <Madclaw> I agree [2007-12-30 02:24:07] <Grey-man> the people that I know best across Wikia in general are ones I speak with every day in IRC and Skype [2007-12-30 02:24:11] <Jedimca0> sharing their opinions. [2007-12-30 02:24:15] <Madclaw> communication is vital [2007-12-30 02:24:18] <Grey-man> others, like some admins on Wookieepedia, I have no f*ing clue about them [2007-12-30 02:24:22] <Gonk> Adopting their opinions as gospel ;) [2007-12-30 02:24:48] <Jedimca0> we make a lot of decisions in here. [2007-12-30 02:24:55] <Gonk> We shouldn't. [2007-12-30 02:25:01] <Gonk> Not major ones, anyway. [2007-12-30 02:25:12] <Gonk> And not outside of COBs. [2007-12-30 02:25:27] * Gonk spins a couple of case studies pertinent to this topic: [2007-12-30 02:25:39] <Azzt|Undead> Grey-man: which ones? [2007-12-30 02:25:50] <Jedimca0> I'm talking about the small ones, or the administrative decisions [2007-12-30 02:25:55] <Grey-man> Azzt > hm? [2007-12-30 02:25:59] <Grey-man> oh [2007-12-30 02:26:02] <Grey-man> on Wookieepedia? [2007-12-30 02:26:03] <Gonk> Jedimca0 > yes, that's as it should be [2007-12-30 02:26:13] <Grey-man> any that are not on IRC...Kura, QG, etc. [2007-12-30 02:26:30] <Grey-man> I kinda know them, but not like I know Gonk, Jaymach, Ataru, Imp, etc [2007-12-30 02:26:50] <Grey-man> I tend to trust users I've talked with in a real time fashion, more than those I haven't [2007-12-30 02:27:18] <Gonk> Let's use Karohalva as an example. Like him, good user, no complaints. But if somebody nommed him for adminship, I'd be reluctant to support if he wasn't more active in here than he currently is. [2007-12-30 02:27:29] <Grey-man> ya [2007-12-30 02:27:30] <Grey-man> and [2007-12-30 02:27:33] <Grey-man> the times he is on here [2007-12-30 02:27:35] <Grey-man> I kick him [2007-12-30 02:27:36] <Grey-man> for trolling [2007-12-30 02:27:38] <Gonk> lol [2007-12-30 02:27:39] <Grey-man> 9_9 [2007-12-30 02:27:54] * Azzt|Undead gasps [2007-12-30 02:27:55] <Gonk> But on the opposite side of this debate: [2007-12-30 02:27:59] <Azzt|Undead> Giants scored? [2007-12-30 02:28:00] <Azzt|Undead> o_o [2007-12-30 02:28:17] * Jedimca0 would like to remind everyone that is being logged [2007-12-30 02:28:19] <Gonk> We could prevent a really conscientious potential admin from becoming an admin because he/she *doesn't like* IRC [2007-12-30 02:28:33] <Azzt|Undead> Jedimca0: srry :O [2007-12-30 02:28:39] <Jedimca0> :P [2007-12-30 02:29:01] <Madclaw> good point Gonk [2007-12-30 02:29:26] <Azzt|Undead> IRC isn't life. [2007-12-30 02:29:32] <Gonk> Indeed [2007-12-30 02:29:34] <Jedimca0> I agree [2007-12-30 02:29:45] <Gonk> How about this: "So strongly encouraged as to be damn nearly a bribe." [2007-12-30 02:29:52] <Madclaw> yes [2007-12-30 02:30:04] <Jedimca0> Sounds good [2007-12-30 02:30:29] <Azzt|Undead> hehe [2007-12-30 02:30:32] <Azzt|Undead> Gopher it [2007-12-30 02:30:49] <Gonk> ok, any other pressing issues? [2007-12-30 02:30:56] * Azzt|Undead is undead [2007-12-30 02:30:58] <Jedimca0> Not that I know. [2007-12-30 02:31:02] <Madclaw> not at the moment [2007-12-30 02:31:09] <Azzt|Undead> Wait...what's my problem. [2007-12-30 02:31:12] <Azzt|Undead> *that [2007-12-30 02:31:20] <Jedimca0> ? [2007-12-30 02:31:43] =-= Gonk has changed the topic to ``Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | Evil: It's the new good. | Site status: Now over 707 articles!! Take that Vongopedia!! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD Now | Moderator: Gonk - Topic: Wrap-up'' [2007-12-30 02:32:07] <Gonk> I have one final item [2007-12-30 02:32:20] <Grey-man> ? [2007-12-30 02:32:25] <Madclaw> go ahead [2007-12-30 02:32:27] <Gonk> On our admin page, we have the following line: "Darthipedia is not seeking new administrators at this time." Shall I quietly remove it? [2007-12-30 02:32:40] <Grey-man> sure [2007-12-30 02:32:43] <Madclaw> yes [2007-12-30 02:32:51] <Jedimca0> support [2007-12-30 02:32:53] <Madclaw> and let the spam flow in [2007-12-30 02:32:58] <Gonk> lol [2007-12-30 02:32:59] <Jedimca0> wait.... [2007-12-30 02:33:14] <Gonk> I NOMINATE AW35OM3DOOD1999 [2007-12-30 02:33:18] <Jedimca0> do we have a rule about self nominations? [2007-12-30 02:33:22] <Gonk> yes [2007-12-30 02:33:31] <Gonk> # You may not nominate yourself. [2007-12-30 02:33:32] <Gonk> # Must have been a contributer for 3 months. [2007-12-30 02:33:34] <Gonk> # Must be above 13 years old. [2007-12-30 02:33:35] <Gonk> # Must have significant article contributions. [2007-12-30 02:33:37] <Gonk> # Must have a sense of humor. [2007-12-30 02:33:38] <Gonk> # Must have shown that you are capable of relating reasonably maturely with other users. [2007-12-30 02:33:40] <Gonk> # Must not have been subject to any significant administrative reprimand [2007-12-30 02:33:51] <Jedimca0> ah [2007-12-30 02:33:59] <Jedimca0> just making sure. :) [2007-12-30 02:34:10] <Madclaw> that is on site right? [2007-12-30 02:34:16] <Madclaw> i remenber reading that once [2007-12-30 02:34:17] <Gonk> yes [2007-12-30 02:34:56] <Gonk> ok, then I bid you all DARTH PARTINGS [2007-12-30 02:35:07] <Jedimca0> that's it. [2007-12-30 02:35:08] =-= Gonk has changed the topic to ``Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | Evil: It's the new good. | Site status: Now over 707 articles!! Take that Vongopedia!!'' [2007-12-30 02:35:16] <Jedimca0> Meeting over [2007-12-30 02:35:22] * Azzt|Undead bids you all Dimly Lit Partings