Simple Darthipedia:Council of Blood/Log/2007 November 3

[19:00]  I BID YOU ALL DARTH GREETINGS [19:00]  Ping Pinky [19:00] * Jedimca0 changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 2 hours.�' [19:00]  I bid $500 [19:00]  Alright, someone want to post the first topic? [19:00]  Duration of Featured Sith on mainpage: a month? Longer? [19:01]  I don't think longer than a month is necessary. [19:01]  I have a proposal on this. [19:01] * LO|Hereish is now known as LO|Away [19:01] A month....for now. [19:01]  Shoot [19:01] * Jedimca0 changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 2 hours. | TOPIC: Duration of Featured Sith�' [19:01]  yes? [19:01]  Pinky: CoB [19:01]  ok :) [19:02]  A month, but if we have loads, it can be free-flow...y if there's loads [19:02]  One month sounds good. [19:02]  for now. [19:02]  Acky > So, a month until we get a big backlog, then? [19:02]  Pretty much. [19:02] <AdmirableAckbar> But it would be flexible. [19:02] Yay, in favor of this.. [19:02] <Pinky> 1 month is good for me too ;) [19:02] <Jedimca0> I agree [19:03] <AdmirableAckbar> So if we had a period with loads it could be changed, but only temporarily. [19:03] <Gonk> Ah, ok. But otherwise, a month precisely? [19:03] <AdmirableAckbar> Yes. [19:03] <Gonk> Works for me [19:03] <AdmirableAckbar> Easier to manage also. [19:03] <Gonk> Indeed [19:03] <Jedimca0> I agree [19:03] <AdmirableAckbar> Yay or nay: one month [19:03] <AdmirableAckbar> ? [19:03] <Gonk> I hear all yays [19:04] Yay. [19:04] <Jedimca0> Yay [19:04] <Gonk> YIPEE... er, um, Yay [19:04] <Pinky> yay [19:04] <KeiraSkyhawk> Yay. [19:04] <AdmirableAckbar> Yay. [19:04] <Gonk> #2: Crap Articles [19:04] * Gonk sets mode: -v KeiraSkyhawk [19:04] <Jedimca0> We have Template:Improve, we could use that to indicate which articles need improving and we could make a "time limit" for it, if the article is not improved it will be deleted. one week? or two weeks? [19:04] �3*** Joins : Jakerl (*!*=469de092@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-4c9be5bd1ef0e06f) -- (Operator Status: �Un-identified) [19:04] <KeiraSkyhawk> All hail Lord El Royal Fluffybun Jakerl, the real ruler of #Darthipedia! [19:04] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Jakerl [19:04] #Darthipedia Cannot send to channel [19:04] * KeiraSkyhawk: you need to be a channel operator to do that [19:05] * supergeeky1 sets mode: +o Jakerl [19:05] <AdmirableAckbar> Hey Jakerl [19:05] <Gonk> well, first, let's decide if we want guidelines [19:05] <Gonk> hi Jakerl [19:05] Jakerl. [19:05] <Jakerl> Yo [19:05] * Gonk changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 2 hours. | TOPIC: Crap articles�' [19:05] * Jedimca0 changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 2 hours. | TOPIC: #2 Crap Articles�' [19:05] <Gonk> 9_9 [19:05] * supergeeky1 sets mode: -o Jakerl [19:05] <Jedimca0> :P [19:05] * supergeeky1 sets mode: +v KeiraSkyhawk [19:05] <Gonk> I have to wonder if Unit 8311's objection is based solely on an anti-Uncyclopedia bias [19:06] <AdmirableAckbar> Maybe. [19:06] <AdmirableAckbar> But it still counts. [19:06] <Gonk> Well, yes [19:06] I'd say yes, it is. [19:06] <Gonk> But I wasn't gonna carbon-copy their rules over here [19:06] <AdmirableAckbar> Yeah, make a guideline page [19:06] I myself tend to agree with Jakerl's idea, #22. [19:06] <Gonk> I just think some of the philosophies they list are wise for a humor wiki. That said, he's right, most of it isn't very funny, because much of Uncyc ignores those guidelines [19:06] But a guideline is good. [19:07] <Jakerl> Yeah [19:07] <Jedimca0> see: http://darth.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Articles_that_need_to_be_improved [19:07] <AdmirableAckbar> I support only on the condition that it is a guideline. [19:07] <Jedimca0> That will only grow. [19:07] <Gonk> How about this: [19:07] <AdmirableAckbar> Not a hard and fast rule [19:07] <AdmirableAckbar> And give the author's a change to improve it [19:07] <Jedimca0> I agree not a hard and fast rule [19:07] <Gonk> We use the category to flag articles that need help. After a certain time period, those articles go to the TC. [19:07] <AdmirableAckbar> Yes. [19:08] <AdmirableAckbar> But we still have to vote for a TC. :/ [19:08] Agreed. [19:08] <Gonk> And we base all such judgments on the guidelines [19:08] <Gonk> So, to be clear: yay or nay to guidelines? [19:08] Yay. [19:08] <Jedimca0> Yay [19:08] <AdmirableAckbar> Yay. [19:08] <Jakerl> Yay [19:08] <Gonk> Yay from me, Nay from Unit 8311 [19:08] <Jakerl> lol [19:08] lol [19:08] <Jedimca0> XD [19:08] <Pinky> lol [19:08] <Pinky> yay [19:08] <AdmirableAckbar> Alright, Pinky? [19:09] <AdmirableAckbar> ah [19:09] <AdmirableAckbar> ok, passed. [19:09] <Jakerl> #3 [19:09] [19:09] JK19bby [19:09] <Gonk> And yay or nay to creating a TC for stuff that's been in the category too long [19:09] <Gonk> (as long as we're on the topic) [19:09] Yay. [19:09] <AdmirableAckbar> Yay. [19:09] <Jakerl> Yay [19:09] <Jedimca0> Yay [19:09] <Gonk> Yayyyyy [19:09] <Gonk> We'll need to come up with a clever Sithly name for it. [19:10] <AdmirableAckbar> Yes. [19:10] <Pinky> heh [19:10] <AdmirableAckbar> Now or later? [19:10] <Gonk> Eh...soon [19:10] <Jakerl> Later [19:10] <AdmirableAckbar> Yeah, ok. [19:10] <Gonk> Next vote, same topic: [19:10] <Gonk> How long before a tagged article goes to TCland? [19:10] <AdmirableAckbar> 1 week. [19:10] Two weeks. [19:10] <Jakerl> 1 week [19:10] <Jedimca0> 1 week [19:10] <Gonk> A month [19:11] <AdmirableAckbar> Actually: [19:11] <Jakerl> Too long [19:11] <AdmirableAckbar> I think it depends on the article really. [19:11] <AdmirableAckbar> how about this: [19:11] <Gonk> I agree, Acky [19:11] <Gonk> And I propose a month because these types of articles aren't always easy to write [19:11] <AdmirableAckbar> two weeks, but if there's a clear consensus to delete after one it can be deleted. [19:11] <AdmirableAckbar> if it's utter crap [19:11] Sounds good. [19:11] <Gonk> ehhh... [19:12] <Jedimca0> I'd say one week, longer if someone is working on it. [19:12] <Jakerl> Yeah [19:12] <Gonk> That sounds good [19:12] <Gonk> But [19:12] <Gonk> I'd say two weeks, longer if someone is working on it [19:12] <Jedimca0> sounds good two [19:12] <Jakerl> Yep [19:12] <Jakerl> Yay [19:12] <AdmirableAckbar> Yeah, ok [19:12] <Jedimca0> Yay [19:12] Yay. [19:13] * Gonk changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 2 hours. | TOPIC: JK wants rollback�' [19:13] <Jedimca0> NO [19:13] Rollbacks might be useful.... at a later time, however. Right now, the wiki is experiencing little vandalism, all of which has been easily controlled. [19:13] <AdmirableAckbar> No. [19:13] <Gonk> Agreed. Later [19:13] <AdmirableAckbar> Ever. [19:13] <Jedimca0> JK can't have rollback. [19:13] <Jedimca0> :P [19:13] <Pinky> heh [19:13] lol [19:13] <Jakerl> No to rollbacks...for now [19:13] <AdmirableAckbar> you know he can see this? [19:13] * supergeeky1 doesn't give a shit. [19:13] <Jakerl> lol [19:13] <Jakerl> Yeah [19:13] <Jedimca0> No, for now. [19:14] <Pinky> rollback is really useless [19:14] <Jakerl> Next topic? [19:14] <Pinky> honestly [19:14] <Gonk> On a big wiki, it's kind of nice [19:14] It is. [19:14] <AdmirableAckbar> Yes. [19:14] <Jakerl> Agreed [19:14] I myself don't even use it. [19:14] Undo is much easier. [19:14] * Gonk changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 2 hours. | TOPIC: Talkheaders�' [19:14] <Jakerl> But we're not a big wiki...yet [19:14] <Pinky> I have some weird JS thingy that reverts for me :P [19:14] <Jakerl> Ok, Talkheaders [19:15] <AdmirableAckbar> Kill talkheaders. [19:15] <Gonk> What is this about now? [19:15] As far as Talkheader goes, I believe it is fine as is. I have heard a few complaints, however, that it has become a problem, not knowing if a discussion has occured on one of the talk pages. I have been affected by this problem, myself. However, I still keep my position in this, that Talkheader should be on ALL talk pages, even before they have been created, as other users later forget to add it when they create it themselves. [19:15] <Jakerl> KILL! [19:15] <AdmirableAckbar> unless there's already a discussion [19:15] <Gonk> oh, that [19:15] <AdmirableAckbar> It's pointless. [19:15] <Jakerl> I say kill the talk pages with TH's [19:15] <Jakerl> with just TH [19:15] <Jedimca0> Keep the ones that are already there, but only put the template on new pages when there is a discussion. [19:15] <Pinky> maybe for main talk pages, but it definitely shouldn't exist on MediaWiki, template, etc talk pages [19:16] <Gonk> Per Jedimca0 [19:16] <Gonk> and Pinky [19:16] Yes, per Jedimca0. [19:16] <AdmirableAckbar> Per Jakerl [19:16] It might be difficult removing, however. [19:16] <Jakerl> If someone talks on there, add TH [19:16] There's already countless talk pages that exist with it. [19:16] <Pinky> I can have a bot remove it, if thats the consensus [19:16] <Jakerl> Nah, just take a couple of days [19:16] <Jakerl> Also, one thing about them [19:16] <Gonk> I see several issues here, so let's break it down: [19:17] If that's the case, then I'd support the removal of them from template/image/mediawiki talk pages. [19:17] <Gonk> Yay or nay: THs on talk pages without any discussion are a bad idea and should not be included in the future? [19:17] <Gonk> ^ yay [19:17] <AdmirableAckbar> Yay. [19:17] Yay. [19:17] <Jedimca0> Yay [19:17] <Jakerl> Yay [19:18] <Gonk> Yay or nay: [19:18] <Pinky> yay [19:18] <Gonk> THs currently on article talk pages should be removed if there's no discussion. [19:18] <Jakerl> Yay [19:18] <AdmirableAckbar> Yay. [19:18] <Gonk> ^ *article* talk pages [19:18] <Pinky> nay [19:19] <Jedimca0> nay [19:19] I somewhat say nay. [19:19] In fact, make that a full nay. [19:19] <AdmirableAckbar> I don't see why we need them, though. [19:19] <Jakerl> Well, you wouldn't tell if someone talk on their or not [19:19] <Jakerl> *there [19:19] <AdmirableAckbar> I'm happy to delete them if no-one else wants to [19:20] <AdmirableAckbar> They don't serve a purpose [19:20] <Pinky> I don't think theres any point in getting rid of it if its already there [19:20] <Jedimca0> If they need to be deleted, I'll help. [19:20] <Gonk> If I say Yay, we have a tie [19:20] <AdmirableAckbar> What is the rationale for keeping them? [19:20] Does Keira get a tie-breaking vote, then? :-P [19:20] <Gonk> er [19:20] <Gonk> no [19:20] <Jakerl> If no one spoke on there, delete it, period [19:20] <Jedimca0> XD [19:20] * AdmirableAckbar sets mode: -v KeiraSkyhawk [19:21] <Gonk> It's really a pretty minor issue. I'm gonna just vote nay in the interest of speeding things along [19:21] <Gonk> Next part of the issue: [19:21] <Gonk> *non-article* talk page headers currently in existence: bahleet? [19:21] <LO|Away> NAY!!! [19:21] <AdmirableAckbar> Yay. [19:21] <Gonk> Yay [19:21] <Jedimca0> Yay [19:21] Yay. [19:21] <Jakerl> Yay [19:21] <LO|Away> Don't mind me. [19:21] <Gonk> :) [19:22] <Jedimca0> we only need them on article talk pages. [19:22] <LO|Away> I have no idea what you're talking abut. [19:22] <Jedimca0> lol [19:22] <Pinky> yay [19:22] <AdmirableAckbar> ok, so can they go? [19:22] <Gonk> that sounds unanimous [19:22] <Gonk> On non-article talk pages, yeah [19:22] <AdmirableAckbar> But article talk pages it stays. [19:22] <Gonk> ...for now ;) [19:22] <Jedimca0> for now, I think. [19:22] <Jedimca0> :) [19:23] <Gonk> Any other aspect to the talkheader mess? [19:23] <AdmirableAckbar> Not that I know of. [19:23] <Gonk> I think that covers it [19:23] * Gonk changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 2 hours. | TOPIC: Wiki look: Keep or change?�' [19:23] <Gonk> Keep [19:23] I'm all for keeping the wiki look the way it is, maybe even adding a few things to it. I believe we need to experiment with several different ideas to make it look as impressive and professional as possible. [19:23] <Gonk> Per SG1 [19:23] <AdmirableAckbar> Per SG1 [19:23] <Jakerl> per SG1 [19:23] <Jedimca0> Keep [19:23] <Jedimca0> per SG1 :) [19:23] :D [19:24] <Gonk> I favor experimentation in principle, even if some changes (like the menu-hidey-thing) infuriate me :) [19:24] <Pinky> yeah, per SG1 :) [19:24] Yeah, I was getting pretty pissed at that too. [19:24] * Gonk changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 2 hours. | TOPIC: Political Darths�' [19:24] And I was the one that applied it. [19:24] <AdmirableAckbar> As was I [19:24] <Gonk> Here we go [19:24] <Pinky> although, the fact that its a copy of mem-alpha isn't the greatest thing [19:24] Does this even need a vote? [19:24] <AdmirableAckbar> May as well. [19:24] <Jedimca0> No politics, period. We're a *STAR WARS* Humor wiki, not a political wiki. [19:24] <Jakerl> Per Jedimca0 [19:25] Per Jedimca0. [19:25] <Gonk> We have jokes about real-life bands, TV shows... [19:25] <Gonk> ...but politics alone is off-limits? [19:25] <AdmirableAckbar> I'm happy to allow politics. [19:25] <Jedimca0> I'd say yes. [19:25] <AdmirableAckbar> To an extent. [19:25] * Gonk does not yet know how he feels about this one, fwiw [19:25] Some should be allowed. [19:25] Like Darth Nixon. [19:25] <Jakerl> Per SG1 [19:25] * LO|Away is now known as LO|Hereish [19:25] But ones that say "Bush is pure evil!" need to go. [19:25] <Jakerl> He's dead [19:25] <AdmirableAckbar> Certain inflammatory things should not be allowed [19:25] That too, Jakerl. [19:25] <Jakerl> But Bush crap, no [19:25] <AdmirableAckbar> i.e.Hitler [19:25] <Gonk> Darth Nixon isn't even a political article [19:26] <LO|Hereish> Heil! [19:26] <LO|Hereish> j/k [19:26] <LO|Hereish> Heil SG1 [19:26] <AdmirableAckbar> I say case-by-case [19:26] <Jedimca0> Per AdmirableAckbar [19:26] * KeiraSkyhawk: you need to be a channel operator to do that [19:26] * KeiraSkyhawk: you need to be a channel operator to do that [19:26] <Gonk> The concern is that someone will write a funny but politically biased article [19:26] <AdmirableAckbar> Then we discuss it. [19:26] <Pinky> indeed [19:26] <Gonk> I think we need something a little more firm than case-by-case... nothing too firm, but something [19:27] <Gonk> How about this: [19:27] <Gonk> (on the guideline page) [19:27] <Gonk> "Darthipedia is not a place for you to grind an ideological axe. If our admins deem an article to be too political, not funny enough, or both, it is subject to revision and/or deletion" ...or something [19:27] Sounds good. [19:28] <Jakerl> Yeah [19:28] <Pinky> I like [19:28] <Jedimca0> Sounds very good. [19:28] <AdmirableAckbar> Sure. [19:28] <Jakerl> Me likey [19:28] <Gonk> k [19:28] * Gonk changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 2 hours. | TOPIC: Jar Jar from SWFanon or something�' [19:28] <Gonk> Revival and transfer of the "How Jar Jar Died" article which was deleted at Swfanon. That bit of ramble had some fine ideas in it even for those of us (like me) who don't care a Wampa McNugget about Jar Jar. [19:28] <AdmirableAckbar> Hmmmmm. [19:28] <Gonk> This is also topic 11 [19:28] Uh.... [19:29] Yeah. [19:29] <AdmirableAckbar> wait a minute! [19:29] <Gonk> What can we copy from other wikis and what not? We need strict clear rules. [19:29] We skipped a few. [19:29] <AdmirableAckbar> what about my other topics! [19:29] <Gonk> :| [19:29] <Jedimca0> lol [19:29] <AdmirableAckbar> one sec: [19:29] <Jakerl> Well, the sith one we need to skip [19:29] <Jakerl> No need [19:29] No. [19:29] It's Darth Kruhl. [19:29] <Jakerl> We all know its ELMO! [19:29] <AdmirableAckbar> I actually have something serious to say related to the first two [19:29] <Gonk> Ah, ok [19:30] <AdmirableAckbar> We need to schedule the COBs much closer to the actual date. [19:30] * Gonk changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 2 hours. | TOPIC: Future CoBs�' [19:30] <Gonk> Yes [19:30] <Jakerl> Or Darth Penis, he's AWESOME! [19:30] <AdmirableAckbar> Cause most have completely forgotten. [19:30] <Gonk> Yes [19:30] <Gonk> That said, I doubt we need to schedule CoB #2 today [19:30] <Gonk> or for a while [19:30] <AdmirableAckbar> No, of course not. [19:31] <Jakerl> I just say about December [19:31] <Jakerl> Maybe [19:31] <Gonk> Late December could be good [19:31] Yes. [19:31] <AdmirableAckbar> I will be in Australia, but yeah, ok [19:31] <Gonk> That's specific enough for now [19:31] <Jedimca0> December 31? :P [19:31] <Jakerl> Yes [19:31] I believe we should do them every month/two months, for now. [19:31] * Gonk changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 2 hours. | TOPIC: Copying articles from other wikis�' [19:31] Then, when more problems have been resolved, we do it every six months or so. [19:31] But, anyway.... [19:32] <Gonk> I'm uncomfortable with this, generally, unless credit to the relevant parties is somehow given. [19:32] <Pinky> well, per GFDL, its *legal* to copy stuff from another wikia wiki, providing its attributted, but that doesn't mean we *should* necessarily [19:32] <Jedimca0> I'd say copying stuff should be allowed if it is funny, Star Wars related and if the "real" source is stated clearly. [19:32] <AdmirableAckbar> I would say no, unless the author copied it themselves [19:32] Especially in the case of "How Jar Jar Died" [19:32] http://web.archive.org/web/20070321025739/http://swfanon.wikia.com/wiki/How_Jar_Jar_Died [19:32] <Gonk> Stated in the article itself (BTS? Source?), or the talk page? [19:32] Read part of it today. [19:32] It's basically crap. [19:32] Talk page. [19:32] <AdmirableAckbar> Anything like that is. [19:33] <AdmirableAckbar> Any community chip in with your own ideas are generally shit. [19:33] * Gonk looks at the article for the first time [19:33] <Jedimca0> Not "in" the article, it'll look like a joke. [19:33] <Jedimca0> perhaps a template? [19:33] * Gonk realizes why Yahoo's World of Star Wars doesn't let you type the word "hate" [19:33] <Gonk> I like talk page note. [19:33] <Jedimca0> Template on the talk page? [19:33] <AdmirableAckbar> Hmmmm. [19:33] <Gonk> Yeah, something like that [19:34] <Jakerl> Yeah, we did that pn SWGames [19:34] <Jakerl> *on [19:34] <AdmirableAckbar> Is this about deleted stuff or current stuff or both? [19:34] <Gonk> Both [19:34] <Gonk> Either [19:34] <AdmirableAckbar> ok [19:34] <AdmirableAckbar> I say yes if author copied it themselves [19:34] <Gonk> Nothing's ever really deleted on the Inter-Nets :) [19:34] <Pinky> heh [19:34] I say yes if you get permission from the author. [19:34] <AdmirableAckbar> i.e. if Kwenn copied his unwookieepedia subpage [19:34] <AdmirableAckbar> Ok, let's break it up: [19:35] <AdmirableAckbar> Yay or nay: is it ok to copy stuff if author consents/does it him/herself? [19:35] <AdmirableAckbar> Yay. [19:35] Yay. [19:35] <Pinky> yay [19:35] <Gonk> Yay [19:35] <Jedimca0> Yay [19:35] Per GFDL. [19:35] <Jakerl> Yay [19:35] <AdmirableAckbar> ok, that's that [19:35] <AdmirableAckbar> now: [19:35] <Gonk> Do we restrict copying to ONLY stuff the author copies or consents to? [19:36] <Pinky> hmm [19:36] <AdmirableAckbar> Yay. [19:36] <Jakerl> Yay [19:36] <AdmirableAckbar> We don't need a conlict. [19:36] Yay. [19:36] <AdmirableAckbar> *conflict [19:36] <Jedimca0> Yay [19:36] <Pinky> yay I suppose [19:36] <Gonk> Nay, but with the proviso that if the author wants it taken down, we take it down. [19:36] <AdmirableAckbar> Yeah, ~ [19:36] <Pinky> hmm [19:36] <AdmirableAckbar> I can go with that [19:36] <Gonk> I'm envisioning a situation where a user vanishes but produced something cool. [19:36] <Pinky> I'm actually liking Gonk's idea better [19:36] <Gonk> Then we could never get consent. Oh, and this is for GFDL content only [19:37] <AdmirableAckbar> Yay. [19:37] <Jedimca0> Per Gonk, if the author wants it taken down, we take it down. [19:37] I'm gonna go with a yay. [19:37] <Jakerl> Per Gonk [19:37] <Pinky> yay [19:37] <AdmirableAckbar> Want = any sort of request [19:37] <Gonk> right [19:37] <AdmirableAckbar> We don't argue whatsoever [19:37] <Jedimca0> yes [19:37] <AdmirableAckbar> or attempt to persuade them [19:37] <Jakerl> right [19:37] <Jakerl> We got it covered? [19:37] <Jedimca0> we delete after the first request. [19:38] <Pinky> should we ask first regardless? [19:38] <Gonk> If we can ask, we should [19:38] <AdmirableAckbar> Per Gonk [19:38] <Gonk> But that's a guideline [19:38] <Jedimca0> We should, but we don't have to. [19:38] <AdmirableAckbar> Yes. [19:38] * Gonk changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 2 hours. | TOPIC: Date/year articles�' [19:38] <AdmirableAckbar> so...is that passed? [19:39] <Gonk> Creation of date and year articles, which would be used for fake birthdays, fake deaths, fake major occasions [19:39] <AdmirableAckbar> I have a question. [19:39] <AdmirableAckbar> These are in-universe years or OOU? [19:39] <Jakerl> Per Acky [19:39] They could be both, I suppose. [19:39] <Jakerl> I say both [19:39] <AdmirableAckbar> I have a proposal: [19:39] <Gonk> Yay for both or either. I see no reason not to [19:39] <AdmirableAckbar> I do. [19:39] <Gonk> Mm? [19:39] <AdmirableAckbar> Ok, let me explain. [19:40] <Gonk> Oh, I think I know what you're going to say [19:40] <AdmirableAckbar> When working on my swgames article, I hit random article and 2/3 of them were dates... [19:40] Yes, exactly. [19:40] * Gonk curls his beard in a thoughtful Obi-Wan-esque fashion [19:40] This was the concern I had. [19:40] <AdmirableAckbar> ...and the chances are a lot of the date articles on Darthipedia will be crap. [19:40] <Jakerl> Yeah [19:40] <Pinky> perhaps only create year articles that are linked from >1 page? [19:40] I don't believe in this situation we should do every date. [19:40] <AdmirableAckbar> I say create month articles. [19:40] <Gonk> Funny, I thought you were going to say that you were worried about all our various fictional narratives getting confused [19:40] <Gonk> Month?! Bah! [19:41] <Gonk> Months don't have names in SW [19:41] <AdmirableAckbar> Wait. [19:41] <AdmirableAckbar> I mean real life [19:41] <Gonk> Ahhhh [19:41] <Gonk> hmm. [19:41] <Gonk> I propose this, first off: [19:41] <Jakerl> Just months [19:41] <Jakerl> No days [19:41] <Jedimca0> I agree [19:41] <Gonk> No date article (IU or OOU, year or whatever) can exist if it isn't linked from something. [19:41] I might be in favor of Jakerl's proposal. [19:41] Right. [19:41] <Gonk> *from an article, not some dude's userpage [19:41] <Jakerl> We'll run out of ideas if we try to make it funny [19:42] <AdmirableAckbar> But what about consistency? [19:42] <Jedimca0> Per Gonk [19:42] Consistency doesn't matter on the Darth. [19:42] <AdmirableAckbar> I guess. [19:42] <Gonk> Acky, look at it like this: [19:42] <Gonk> if there's a May 1977 article, but no June 1977 article, I'll still be able to find the August 1977 article easily enough. [19:43] <Pinky> and, I don't really think we should create a year article for *every* random stub article's birth [19:43] <Jedimca0> I agree [19:43] No. [19:43] Agreed. [19:43] <Gonk> Most authors won't even think to do it, Pinky [19:43] <AdmirableAckbar> Hmmmmm. [19:43] <AdmirableAckbar> We want to date articles to be funny, do we not? [19:43] <Jakerl> Duh [19:43] <AdmirableAckbar> and if they're just listing article's birthdates, then... [19:44] <Jedimca0> I want them to link to funny articles. [19:44] <AdmirableAckbar> they're neither humurous nor original [19:44] <Gonk> fwiw: http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/2006 [19:44] <Gonk> (not quite the same thing as what we're discussing, I realize) [19:44] Only for things like "February 3rd, 9999: Darth Nerd looses his virginity." [19:45] <Gonk> hmmm. [19:45] <AdmirableAckbar> Wait, I'm confused. [19:45] <Gonk> You know, the more we discuss this, the more I oppose date articles of any type [19:45] <Gonk> This sort of content could just as easily go in the article itself [19:45] Gonk has a point. [19:45] <AdmirableAckbar> Yeah, per Gonk [19:45] <Gonk> What does SWFanon do? [19:46] <AdmirableAckbar> Has each year [19:46] <Gonk> And does it suck? [19:46] <AdmirableAckbar> well, no [19:46] Um.... [19:46] <Jakerl> Probally [19:46] Everything sucks, there. [19:46] <Jedimca0> http://darth.wikia.com/wiki/100_ABY [19:46] <AdmirableAckbar> it has any year article that is linked to, AFAIK [19:46] <Gonk> OK, I've got it [19:46] <Gonk> Simple solution [19:46] <AdmirableAckbar> Hmmm. See that article actually has some original content [19:47] <Gonk> We treat date articles (IU or OOU) no differently than any others. They have to have content. [19:47] <Jedimca0> I agree [19:47] <AdmirableAckbar> Yes. Original. [19:47] Yes. [19:47] <AdmirableAckbar> *original content [19:47] <Gonk> They don't even have to link to something else, but they have to be funny and somehow new. [19:47] <Jedimca0> Like 100 ABY [19:47] <AdmirableAckbar> yes [19:47] Exactly. [19:47] <Gonk> They're subject to the same guidelines/Improvement category/TC scheme as any other article [19:47] <Jakerl> Agreed [19:47] <AdmirableAckbar> and not have 99 ABY exactly the same [19:48] <AdmirableAckbar> ok, so, is that passed? [19:48] <AdmirableAckbar> we can skip the next one, btw [19:48] <Gonk> Yeah [19:48] * Gonk changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 2 hours. | TOPIC: Admin election process�' [19:49] <AdmirableAckbar> Right. I'd also like to discuss requirements, if that's ok. [19:49] <Gonk> sure [19:49] <Jedimca0> Do we need more admins? [19:49] <Jakerl> Maybe have at least one or two [19:49] <AdmirableAckbar> Not yet. [19:49] Yeah, I don't believe we should copy Wookieepedia's, exactly. [19:49] <AdmirableAckbar> But we probably will. [19:49] <AdmirableAckbar> Ok, I have a few proposals: [19:49] <AdmirableAckbar> (I want to keep it simple) [19:49] <Gonk> #1 You can't nominate yourself [19:49] <Gonk> :) [19:49] <AdmirableAckbar> Yes [19:49] :D [19:49] <AdmirableAckbar> sorry JK [19:49] <Jakerl> lol [19:50] <Jedimca0> XD [19:50] lol [19:50] <AdmirableAckbar> #2 Have to have been a contributer for 3 months. [19:50] <AdmirableAckbar> that an ok time? [19:50] How long has the wiki been up? [19:50] Two? Three? [19:50] <AdmirableAckbar> Closer to three, I think. [19:50] Ah. [19:50] <Jakerl> 3 [19:50] <Jedimca0> Three I think. [19:50] <Gonk> Created August 10 [19:51] <AdmirableAckbar> So almost 3 [19:51] <Gonk> 3 works... for now [19:51] <Jedimca0> I agree [19:51] <AdmirableAckbar> yeah, ok, next one: [19:51] <AdmirableAckbar> #3 Be above COPPA age. [19:51] <Gonk> heh [19:51] <Gonk> YES [19:51] Yes. [19:51] <Jakerl> YES [19:51] <Pinky> of course [19:51] <Jedimca0> Yes [19:51] <AdmirableAckbar> Yes [19:51] <AdmirableAckbar> ok, next: [19:52] <AdmirableAckbar> #4 Have significant contributions. [19:52] <Gonk> Sounds good. Nice and vague. [19:52] <Jakerl> Yes [19:52] <Jedimca0> yes. [19:52] Uh huh. [19:52] <AdmirableAckbar> Yay. [19:52] <Gonk> Is that all of them? [19:53] <AdmirableAckbar> two more: [19:53] <Gonk> k [19:53] <AdmirableAckbar> #5 Have a sense of humour. [19:53] Again, sorry JK19bby. [19:53] <Gonk> 9_9 [19:53] :-P [19:53] <Jedimca0> YES [19:53] <AdmirableAckbar> #6 Have shown that they are capable of relating reasonably maturely with other users [19:54] <Gonk> and? [19:54] <Gonk> ahhhh [19:54] <Gonk> yes [19:54] Wow. [19:54] Really [19:54] Sorry JK. [19:54] <Gonk> Let's do this the easy way. Any objections to any of Acky's proposals? [19:54] This isn't turning out to be his night. [19:54] <AdmirableAckbar> oh, and one more [19:54] Nope. [19:54] <Jedimca0> yes [19:54] <AdmirableAckbar> #7 Do not have a poor block history, etc... [19:54] <Gonk> naturally [19:54] <AdmirableAckbar> sorry again JK [19:54] lol [19:54] <Jedimca0> XD [19:54] <AdmirableAckbar> ok, I obviously support all that [19:54] <Jakerl> lol [19:54] <AdmirableAckbar> brb [19:55] Yes, I support this as well. [19:55] <AdmirableAckbar> actually, I'm here for a minute [19:55] <Gonk> No major incidents of administrative reprimand [19:55] <Jedimca0> *support* [19:55] <Gonk> I like all these guidelines, and I think we should codify them *with the stipulation* that it'll probably be several months indeed before we open the election process at all. [19:56] <Jedimca0> I agree [19:56] <Gonk> That leaves the next CoB to figure out the exact process :) [19:56] Yes. [19:56] <Jakerl> Agreed [19:56] <Gonk> Any opposition to any of this? [19:56] Nope. [19:57] * Gonk changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 2 hours. | TOPIC: Image of the Day (or week)�' [19:57] <Gonk> I like week. I think we have enough for week. [19:57] <Jedimca0> I agree [19:57] <Gonk> And if we end up with a repeat, so what [19:57] Yes, I agree. [19:58] UOTM. [19:58] We need to get that, IMO. [19:58] <Gonk> Hang on [19:58] <Jedimca0> We're an evil wiki, we don't care about repeating things. :P [19:58] <Gonk> Let's see what Acky has to say [19:58] Oh, right. [19:58] <AdmirableAckbar> sorry, I'm back [19:58] <Gonk> Evil's all about repeating itself. Just look at Palpatine. Dude refused to die. [19:58] lol [19:58] <Jedimca0> lol [19:58] <AdmirableAckbar> Image of the Week [19:59] <Gonk> Jakerl? [19:59] <AdmirableAckbar> can be any image [19:59] <Jakerl> Yeah [19:59] <AdmirableAckbar> canon or modified [19:59] <Jakerl> Image of the Day [19:59] <Gonk> Yeah, simple nom process [19:59] <AdmirableAckbar> no rules [19:59] <Gonk> ...for now :D [19:59] <AdmirableAckbar> like QOTD [19:59] <Gonk> Yeah [19:59] Right. [19:59] <AdmirableAckbar> either I like it or I don't [19:59] <Gonk> Day, Jakerl? [20:00] <Jakerl> Whoops [20:00] *cough* [20:00] <Jakerl> no day, week [20:00] <Gonk> You VILL VOTE CORRECTLY [20:00] <Gonk> ;) [20:00] lol [20:00] <AdmirableAckbar> heh [20:00] <Jakerl> OK, GONK [20:00] <Jakerl> :) [20:00] * Gonk changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 2 hours. | TOPIC: User of the Month�' [20:00] <Gonk> How many users do we have? [20:00] <AdmirableAckbar> about 20 [20:00] <Jakerl> Yes [20:01] <AdmirableAckbar> not too many active though [20:01] Evil Genius of the Month. [20:01] <Gonk> yeah, that's my concern. [20:01] <Gonk> Good name SG1 [20:01] Thanks. :D [20:01] <Jedimca0> yes, good name. [20:01] <Jakerl> Sith of the Month? [20:01] <Gonk> But I think this should wait [20:01] <AdmirableAckbar> Yeah, I;m inclined to wait [20:01] <Gonk> Jakerl, we already have Featured Sith [20:01] Yes, I actually am in favor of waiting. [20:01] Just until we get a few more users. [20:01] <Jakerl> I mean like a user [20:02] <Gonk> Right, but the titles are similar enough to maybe be confusing [20:02] <Jedimca0> I say we should discuss this again at the next CoB. [20:02] <Jakerl> But Evil Genius it fine [20:02] <Gonk> Per Jedimca0 [20:02] Yes. [20:02] <Jakerl> Yeah [20:02] * Gonk changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 2 hours. | TOPIC: On this Day...�' [20:02] <Gonk> Nay [20:02] Nay. [20:02] <Jakerl> Hell no [20:02] <Gonk> It will pressure people to create pointless date articles [20:02] <Jedimca0> Don't know [20:02] We can skip after the consensus earlier. [20:02] <Jedimca0> per supergeeky1 [20:03] <Gonk> Well, nobody said "this day" has to be accurate [20:03] Well, at any rate, nay. [20:03] <Gonk> Acky? [20:04] *cough again* [20:05] Looks like someone had to take a bathroom break.... [20:05] <Gonk> bah, it's a nay vote [20:05] * Gonk changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 2 hours. | TOPIC: Category of articles created by �' [20:05] <Jedimca0> No, this would promote claiming ownership of articles. I say use your userpage or a user subpage for that sort of thing. [20:05] Nay, nay, nay, NAY. [20:05] <Jakerl> NAY [20:05] <Gonk> I can't see this being a good thing. Nay [20:05] <Jakerl> What the fucking hell [20:05] <Jakerl> Bad idea [20:06] <Gonk> Makes sense for SWfanon, not for us [20:06] One of my main reasons I don't like SWFanon.... [20:06] <Jedimca0> It will promote claiming ownership of articles. [20:06] -> [AdmirableAckbar] PING [20:07] <Gonk> ok [20:07] * Gonk changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 2 hours. | TOPIC: Good articles�' [20:07] <Gonk> The creation of a Good articles (though something far eviler) for decent articles that don't relate to the sith. If so, should they or a link to them go on the main page? [20:07] <Gonk> Yes, and a link [20:07] Yes, we should have a link. [20:07] <Jakerl> I like [20:07] <Jedimca0> Yes, Good Articles are a very good idea. [20:07] <Gonk> So the link would go to the GA page's list, basically? [20:08] Main Page, as well. [20:08] Below the Featured Sith. [20:08] <Jakerl> Yeah [20:08] <Jedimca0> Per supergeeky1 [20:08] <Gonk> SG1 > you mean two featured articles, then? [20:08] Basically. [20:08] <Gonk> hmmm [20:08] But just the link to it, [20:08] *. [20:08] <Jedimca0> Every article deserves a chance at being on the main page. [20:08] This encourages users to enhance articles. [20:09] <Jakerl> Per Jedimca0 [20:09] <Gonk> so SG1, you're not proposing putting the whole image-and-intro part of the article on the main page? [20:10] No, of course not. [20:10] It'd be too big. [20:10] <Jedimca0> I'd say a short intro and no image. [20:10] <AdmirableAckbar> arg [20:10] <AdmirableAckbar> real life [20:10] <AdmirableAckbar> I'm back [20:10] <Jedimca0> :) [20:11] <Gonk> :) if you have anything to say about the last couple topics, Acky, feel free [20:11] <AdmirableAckbar> Ok, nay to the last two passed. [20:11] <AdmirableAckbar> Hmmm [20:12] <AdmirableAckbar> For GAs, I say: [20:12] <Gonk> I think I like the idea of a main page GA featured with only two or three sentences [20:12] <AdmirableAckbar> Yeah, me too [20:12] <AdmirableAckbar> No image [20:12] <Jedimca0> I Agree [20:12] <AdmirableAckbar> I have something so say on this: [20:12] <AdmirableAckbar> I've noticed Uncyclopedia has many very short, but funny, FAs. I think shortness and consiseness would be good for our GAs. [20:12] <Gonk> Yes [20:13] <Gonk> And Featured Sith. [20:13] <Jakerl> Agreed [20:13] <Pinky> 19:16 <@AdmirableAckbar> No image [20:13] <Pinky> bleh [20:13] <Pinky> stupid irssi.... [20:13] <AdmirableAckbar> on the main page, that is [20:13] <AdmirableAckbar> for GAs [20:13] <Gonk> Long and funny comedy is hard. Blues Brothers and It's a Mad Mad Mad World are about all there is [20:13] <AdmirableAckbar> Blues Brothers :D [20:14] <Gonk> So acky: [20:14] <Pinky> I like the idea of a few sentences of the GA being on the main page as well [20:14] <Pinky> I think GAs need some kind of evil name though, of course [20:14] <Gonk> Are you proposing a guideline that GA candidates should have snappy intros, so they can be featured on the main page and still be funny? [20:15] <Gonk> Pinky: Naturally :) [20:15] <AdmirableAckbar> Yeah, but the article doesn't /have/ to be short. It's just encouraged. [20:15] <Gonk> right [20:15] <Jakerl> Right [20:15] <AdmirableAckbar> oh, and one more thing: [20:16] <AdmirableAckbar> I assume GAs can be real life articles? [20:16] <Gonk> sure [20:16] <Jedimca0> I say anything can be a GA [20:16] Yes. [20:16] <AdmirableAckbar> Yes. [20:16] <Gonk> ok, all in favor of GAs (by some eviller name) existing and being featured with a few sentences, no image, on the main page? [20:16] <Gonk> Yay [20:16] <Jakerl> Yay! [20:16] Yay. [20:17] <Jedimca0> Yay [20:17] <Pinky> yay [20:17] <AdmirableAckbar> Yay [20:17] * Gonk changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 2 hours. | TOPIC: a new holonet like on swgames called Sithnet�' [20:17] <Gonk> Nay [20:17]  This.... [20:17] <AdmirableAckbar> Nay [20:17] He just wants to be in charge of something. [20:17] Double nay. [20:17] <AdmirableAckbar> Perhaps in the /very/ distant future [20:17] Yes. [20:17] <Jedimca0> Nay. [20:17] <AdmirableAckbar> But I'd prefer something entirely our own creation [20:17] <Jakerl> Nay [20:18] <Jakerl> He just wants to be in charge [20:18] <Jakerl> Maybe in a year or two [20:18] * Gonk changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 2 hours. | TOPIC: Conscripted Slave Labor Project (IDrive)�' [20:18] <Gonk> Nay [20:18] Yay. [20:18] <Jakerl> Yay [20:18] <AdmirableAckbar> Hmmmm. [20:18] <Pinky> may [20:18] <Gonk> I do support a link to our Category of Articles that need to be improved. [20:18] <Gonk> *main page link [20:18] <Gonk> Michael Bey [20:19] <AdmirableAckbar> I get what Gonk is saying on the main page, but I don't think this could do any real harm [20:19] <Jedimca0> I was abou to say that. [20:19] Per Acky. [20:19] <AdmirableAckbar> If it's a disaster we can remove it [20:19] <Jedimca0> we need to link to Category:Articles that need to be improved from the main page. [20:19] * Gonk keeps thinking back to how Wookieepedia annihilated their idrive [20:19] <Jakerl> One more thing about SithNet: *If* we do have it, Skeith will not be in charge, probally admin or something [20:20] <Jakerl> Skeith just wants to take charge in something [20:20] Well, the Wook had it for a while. They didn't need it anymore. [20:20] <Gonk> Jakerl: unless he's an admin by then O.O [20:20] Hell no. [20:20] <Jakerl> Also, he violates COPPa [20:20] <Jakerl> *COPPA [20:20] I swear, if he is, I am vandalizing every page on Darthipedia. [20:20] <Jakerl> He will never be an admin! [20:20] Hell, I'll spread it to Wookieepedia, too. [20:20] :-P [20:20] * AdmirableAckbar has one or two more topics to add at the end, btw [20:20] <Jakerl> He's a fucking bitch! [20:21] <AdmirableAckbar> *minor [20:21] <Gonk> ok Acky [20:21] But anyway.... [20:21] Back on topic. [20:21] <Jakerl> An immature brat! [20:21] <AdmirableAckbar> just little things [20:21] <Gonk> So mine is the only nay vote then? [20:21] <Jakerl> [20:21] <Jakerl> I guess so [20:21] <Jedimca0> What are we talking about? [20:21] <Jedimca0> idrive? [20:21] What about ChanServ? [20:21] <Gonk> I do feel like if we have a link on the main page to the Category, we don't really need idrive, because they serve the same purpose. [20:21] <AdmirableAckbar> Hmmmm. [20:21] <Jedimca0> I agree [20:21] Agreed. [20:22] <AdmirableAckbar> I'm not sure about any of this. [20:22] <Jakerl> Agreed [20:22] <Jedimca0> It would not be a "real" improvement drive, but those articles that need immediate attention will have a link on the main page. [20:22] <Jedimca0> That's enough for me. [20:22] I'm not sure we need this now, however. [20:22] <Gonk> So, "Come look at our crap," then [20:22] <Gonk> :) [20:22] lol [20:22] <AdmirableAckbar> hmmmm [20:22] <Jedimca0> yes [20:22] <Jedimca0> XD [20:22] <AdmirableAckbar> Not sure about this. [20:22] Maybe in a couple months or so, but at the time being, we have very few articles that need improving. [20:23] <AdmirableAckbar> I actually vote nay to any link or ID [20:23] <Jakerl> Yeah [20:23] <Jedimca0> Make it a very small link. :P [20:23] <Gonk> I move we table it entirely until the next CoV [20:23] <Gonk> *CoB [20:23] <AdmirableAckbar> Per Gonk [20:23] Yes. [20:23] <Jedimca0> I agree [20:23] <Jakerl> Yeah [20:24] * Gonk changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 2 hours. | TOPIC: #20 -- More laidback admin thing.�' [20:24] <Gonk> Acky? [20:24] <AdmirableAckbar> ah [20:24] <AdmirableAckbar> gimme one second [20:24] <Jakerl> While we wait... [20:24] <Jakerl> Skeith is a pisshead! [20:24] <Jakerl> Ok, got that off my chest [20:24] <Jedimca0> XD [20:24] Hehe. [20:25] !Gavel Skeith [20:25] * KeiraSkyhawk bangs a gavel on Skeith 's head. [20:25] #darthipedia Cannot send to channel [20:25] Bah! [20:25] She can't talk. [20:25] * Gonk would like to remind everyone that the proceedings are being recorded and will be made publicly available in their entirety [20:25] * supergeeky1 sets mode: +v KeiraSkyhawk [20:25] <AdmirableAckbar> ok: [20:25] !Gavel Skeith [20:25] * KeiraSkyhawk bangs a gavel on Skeith 's head. [20:25] * supergeeky1 sets mode: -v KeiraSkyhawk [20:25] Got that over with.... [20:25] * Gonk is afk a sec [20:26] <AdmirableAckbar> I think we are trying to be too like Wookieepedia with our policies etc. I would like to see as little policies as necessary. [20:26] <AdmirableAckbar> ... [20:26] <Jedimca0> I agree [20:26] Yes. [20:26] <Jedimca0> but some rules are needed... [20:26] <Jakerl> Agreed [20:26] <Jakerl> Agreed [20:27] <Jakerl> Whoops [20:27] <Jakerl> Sorry [20:27] <Gonk> Specific examples? [20:27] <LO|Hereish> Agreed x2 as well. [20:27] <Jakerl> lol [20:27] <AdmirableAckbar> ...and I also think things like http://darth.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Aybfreak#"tirnup" and Jedimca0's talk page should be avoided (sorry to use you as an example SG1) [20:27] <AdmirableAckbar> Gonk: [20:27] <AdmirableAckbar> things like user image policies, sig policies, etc... [20:28] Oh, np. [20:28] <AdmirableAckbar> thoughts? [20:29] <Gonk> Well: [20:29] <Gonk> Two things. One, I see your concern about user image/sig policies and stuff. My thinking had been that it'd be less painful for those who would normally violate such policies if they were never permitted to get excessive in the first place. [20:29] <Jedimca0> Like I said before, some rules are needed, the sig policy is one of them. [20:30] Yes. [20:30] <Gonk> In the teaching business, we have an axiom. You can start out strict and get more lax, but not the other way around. [20:30] <Gonk> Wikis aren't strictly like that, of course [20:30] <AdmirableAckbar> Yet teaching has an aim [20:30] <Gonk> But that was my general thought. [20:30] <AdmirableAckbar> We don't. [20:30] <Gonk> Right [20:30] <Gonk> Though we do aim for some measure of ...civility [20:30] <AdmirableAckbar> My real concern: [20:31] <Gonk> Admins bitching people out? [20:31] <AdmirableAckbar> we are all used to more serious, bigger wikis, and I think we should make sure to "be ourselves," so to speak [20:31] <AdmirableAckbar> Gonk>>no, but something we should not do. [20:31] <Jedimca0> I agree [20:31] <Gonk> yeah, that was going to be my point #2 [20:31] <AdmirableAckbar> Aybfreak (and Karohalva) were making jokes, which we took seriously [20:32] Umm, Aybfreak was joking? O_o [20:32] <Jedimca0> He wasn't joking. [20:32] What I saw was borderline offense. [20:32] <Gonk> We should probably get into the habit of assuming both good faith and sarcasm/irony/etc. [20:32] <AdmirableAckbar> ok, disregard Aybfreak [20:32] <AdmirableAckbar> Per Gonk [20:32] Yes. [20:32] <Jedimca0> I Agree [20:33] <Gonk> And Acky, I agree about not aping everything Wookieepedia (or anyone else) does [20:33] <Gonk> And so far I think we've struck a pretty good balance [20:33] <AdmirableAckbar> Yes. [20:33] <Jedimca0> agreed [20:33] <AdmirableAckbar> Anyway, shall we move on? [20:33] <Gonk> Let me ask this: [20:33] <Gonk> (since I've been kind of off-and-on) Have we actually *chased away* any users? Has anybody posted a rant on their userpage saying YOU GUYS ARE DICKS AND IM NEVER COMING BACK TO YOUR SHITTY WIKI [20:34] <AdmirableAckbar> Not to my knowledge. [20:34] Nope. [20:34] <Jedimca0> Nope. [20:34] <AdmirableAckbar> And I'm not saying we ever will, but... [20:34] <AdmirableAckbar> ...things like that message to Aybfreak can;t help. [20:34] <Gonk> That's quite an accomplishment, then, considering how hypersensitive a lot of Internet folks can be :D [20:35] <AdmirableAckbar> next topic can be skipped, btw [20:35] Yeah. [20:35] * LO|Hereish is now known as LO|Away [20:35] * Gonk changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 2 hours. | TOPIC: Putting polls on article talk pages?�' [20:35] Nope. [20:36] <LO|Away> That party never gets any closer. [20:36] <AdmirableAckbar> Let me elaborate: [20:36] lol [20:36] <Jedimca0> ehhh.... NO [20:36] <Jakerl> No No No No Hell No [20:36] * Gonk prepares the panties [20:36] <AdmirableAckbar> not as common practice, but: [20:36] * Jedimca0 changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 30 minutes. | TOPIC: Putting polls on article talk pages?�' [20:36] * supergeeky1 gets his thong out. [20:36] <Jedimca0> :P [20:36] <Gonk> This is so deeply evil. [20:36] <AdmirableAckbar> should be use polls to see how people like an article? [20:36] <Gonk> *the panty party, I mean [20:36] <AdmirableAckbar> I say no [20:37] * Jakerl gets his thong too [20:37] <Gonk> No [20:37] <Pinky> s are evil [20:37] <AdmirableAckbar> but we shouldn't disallow it [20:37] <Gonk> mmmm [20:37] <Gonk> hmmmmm... [20:37] Doesn't this violate TH? [20:37] <LO|Away> Hm. If you're the ones wearing the panties, I'm outta here. :P [20:37] <Gonk> XD [20:37] <AdmirableAckbar> TH? [20:37] <Jakerl> lol [20:37] lol [20:37] <Jedimca0> XD [20:37] Talkheader [20:37] <Gonk> The talk header warning [20:37] <AdmirableAckbar> ah [20:38] <AdmirableAckbar> well, not in my opinion [20:38] Like putting "Who is teh greatest jedi evar???" on Talk:God, [20:38] *. [20:38] <AdmirableAckbar> no no no [20:38] <AdmirableAckbar> not those kinds of polls [20:38] <AdmirableAckbar> like putting: "how would you rate this article" [20:38] Hmm.... [20:38] <Gonk> Wikia has that already, don't they? [20:38] Yes. [20:38] <AdmirableAckbar> Do they? [20:38] I believe. [20:39] I know they have "Digg this article" [20:39] Which Darthipedia erased, for some reason. [20:39] <Gonk> Hmm [20:39] <AdmirableAckbar> ok, we can leave this [20:39] But the new skin has some "rating" feature. [20:39] <AdmirableAckbar> I'm not in support, just thought it was worth raising [20:39] <Gonk> So it sounds like, individual users can choose to ignore the rating thing. Works for me [20:40] <Jedimca0> I'd say allow it. [20:40] <Jakerl> Allow [20:40] <AdmirableAckbar> Allow. [20:40] * Gonk votes Nay to polls and Nay to permitting polls, since Wikia has it already [20:40] Allow. [20:40] <AdmirableAckbar> the wikia thing is moronic [20:41] <Pinky> indeed [20:41] <Gonk> I never said it wasn't :) [20:41] <AdmirableAckbar> but wait... [20:41] <AdmirableAckbar> ...doesn't the wikia thing just list the top 5 [20:41] <AdmirableAckbar> the poll would give an author a proper reaction to his/her work [20:41] <Jedimca0> I agree [20:41] Yes. [20:41] <Gonk> But how proper would it really be? [20:42] <Gonk> Aren't we inviting flame wars? [20:42] <AdmirableAckbar> Hmmmm. [20:42] <Jedimca0> But, have the author decide if he wants a poll or not. [20:42] <AdmirableAckbar> loplop [20:42] <Gonk> Which author? [20:42] <AdmirableAckbar> The author of the article [20:42] <Gonk> We're not swfanon, though [20:42] <Jakerl> The creator [20:42] <AdmirableAckbar> ok, how about this: [20:42] <Gonk> Suppose sg1 wants a poll on Steve Perry, and I don't. IIRC we've both contributed quite a lot to it [20:43] <Jedimca0> creator, editor. [20:43] <AdmirableAckbar> actually, let's just forget polls [20:43] <Gonk> Counter-proposal: [20:43] <Gonk> Sithy-Cookies. [20:43] <AdmirableAckbar> if someone wants critique they can ask for it on the talk page [20:43] <Jedimca0> Agreed [20:43] <AdmirableAckbar> I'm oppose to all awards [20:43] <Gonk> If you read an article that really tickles you, you can put a cookie on the ARTICLE'S talk page [20:44] <AdmirableAckbar> Yes. [20:44] <Jedimca0> Hmmmm.... souds good. [20:44] <Jakerl> Good idea [20:44] Sounds excellent. [20:44] <Gonk> or [20:44] <Gonk> instead: [20:44] <Gonk> nom it as a GA :) [20:44] <Jedimca0> Even better. [20:44] <AdmirableAckbar> hmmmm [20:44] This could be a good idea for some annual Sith Awards, or something. [20:45] <AdmirableAckbar> a lot of the funny stuff I have seen has been one line stuff [20:45] <Gonk> good point Acky [20:45] <Jakerl> Good point [20:45] <Jakerl> Like Overrefferencing [20:45] <Gonk> What about a main page quote? [20:45] Like a QOTD? [20:46] <Gonk> Well, [20:46] <AdmirableAckbar> Support [20:46] <AdmirableAckbar> any kind of quote [20:46] <Jakerl> Right, we still need a quote on the main page [20:46] <Jedimca0> Support [20:46] <Gonk> Sort of, except prose from the article itself is ok [20:46] <Jakerl> Support [20:46] Support. [20:46] <AdmirableAckbar> yeah, anything can be a QOTD [20:46] <AdmirableAckbar> Support [20:46] <AdmirableAckbar> IRC quotes, real quotes, altered quotes (from canon) etc... [20:47] <Jedimca0> Yes [20:47] <Gonk> I figure this allows us to reward funny bits that don't necessarily qualify for GA status [20:47] http://darth.wikia.com/wiki/Darthipedia:Quotes [20:47] <Gonk> We'll put a link to this transcript on that page [20:47] <Gonk> Let's move on [20:48] <Gonk> RL is pressing in on me :) [20:48] * Gonk changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 30 minutes. | TOPIC: Contingency plan for absentees in CoBs�' [20:48] <Gonk> Simple solution: [20:48] <Gonk> Absentee vote thing like Wookieepedia has [20:48] <AdmirableAckbar> Yes. [20:48] <Gonk> (for next time, anyway :/ ) [20:48] <AdmirableAckbar> But... [20:48] <AdmirableAckbar> A few things: [20:49] <AdmirableAckbar> IMHO, this meeting wouldn't have worked without Gonk. [20:49] >:-( [20:49] :-P [20:49] <AdmirableAckbar> All I mean is that he is the creator, and has opinions on all this stuff [20:49] <Gonk> I've observed that Riff was very active in early Wookieepedia mofferences, and became less and less so each time [20:49] <Gonk> or was it whiteboy... Well, one of them [20:50] <Jedimca0> or perhaps both of them? [20:50] <AdmirableAckbar> Obviously scheduling closer to the date will help a lot [20:50] <Gonk> Maybe. Never trust my memory. [20:50] <Gonk> Yes [20:50] <AdmirableAckbar> "And your name is?" "I've told you Mr.Gonk, it's Fred" [20:51] <Gonk> So, do we need anything more specific here? [20:51] <AdmirableAckbar> nope [20:52] <Gonk> k [20:52] <AdmirableAckbar> last topic [20:52] * Gonk changes topic to 'Darthipedia: The Star Wars Humor Wiki | http://darth.wikia.com | We are all wondering what really is a Lord El Royal Fluffybun. | Site status: Now over 560 articles! | COUNCIL OF BLOOD NOW. Yes, for sure. | Panty party in 30 minutes. | TOPIC: Recruiting new users�' [20:52] <Gonk> almost last topic [20:52] <AdmirableAckbar> very important IMHO [20:52] <AdmirableAckbar> oh yeah [20:52] <Jedimca0> I could write a blog about it on starwars.com.... don't know when I'll have time.... and I'll have to make sure it does not look like we're recruiting, the people at Lucas Online might not like that... [20:52] I created an image for signatures, not long ago. [20:52] http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/supergeeky1/Darthipedia.jpg [20:52] For forums, of course. [20:52] <Gonk> nice [20:52] I wanna change it a bit, though. [20:52] Thanks [20:52] <Gonk> could be funnier. [20:52] It was just a test design. [20:52] <Jedimca0> it = Darthipedia. [20:52] Yes. [20:53] <AdmirableAckbar> I think we should look to become friends with someone big [20:53] <AdmirableAckbar> maybe Wookieepedia [20:53] <Gonk> Weren't we nommed already? [20:53] Once we get 500 articles. [20:53] <AdmirableAckbar> hard to tell how people would react to a request [20:53] O_o [20:53] <Gonk> We're past 500 [20:53] <Jakerl> We have 500 [20:53] Oh, right.... [20:53] * supergeeky1 was thinking it was 400. [20:53] <AdmirableAckbar> Gonk>>were we nommed? [20:53] <Jakerl> O_o [20:53] * Gonk is checking [20:54] <Gonk> Hmm, looks like not [20:54] <Jedimca0> Nope [20:54] <Gonk> Should it be me, or someone else? [20:54] <AdmirableAckbar> ok, I have something to say. [20:54] <AdmirableAckbar> You. [20:54] <AdmirableAckbar> Definitely. [20:54] <Gonk> k :) [20:54] <AdmirableAckbar> Because: [20:55] * supergeeky1 could probably wip up another forum sig within a few minutes, now that he has GIMP 2.4. [20:55] <Gonk> Was that your something that you had? [20:55] <AdmirableAckbar> just that people will be more likely to support if someone they no well has nommed it. [20:55] <Gonk> Makes sense [20:56] <AdmirableAckbar> ok, so will we do that soon, or not so soon? [20:56] <Gonk> I'll do it next week [20:56] <AdmirableAckbar> oh, and I know why you thought we'd been nommed: the userbox [20:56] <Gonk> Give us time to enact some of the stuff we've decided here today [20:56] <Gonk> Riiiiiiiight [20:56] <AdmirableAckbar> Yeah. [20:56] * Gonk smacks his memory circuits [20:56] Hmm, we could also do a TF.N thing, right? [20:56] I'm not big on forums, but I rememer seeing one for Wookieepedia. [20:57] <Gonk> Link? [20:57] And SWMerchandise, I believe. [20:57] One sec. [20:57] <Jedimca0> I could write a blog about Darthipedia on starwars.com.... don't know when I'll have time.... and I'll have to make sure it does not look like we're recruiting, the people at Lucas Online might not like that... [20:57] <Gonk> Jedimca0 > Go for it [20:57] Bah, stupid IE. [20:57] <AdmirableAckbar> Jedimca0>>good idea [20:58] <Jedimca0> I'll see if can do it next weekend. [20:58] <AdmirableAckbar> I can do one now too, though I've never done a blog so your's is likely to get more visitors [20:58] <Gonk> And if any of you are active on MySpace or Facebook or things like that......... just worth some thought. [20:58] That's why I did Darth Pillsbury. [20:58] Heh, I should update that sometime. [20:58] <Gonk> Ah yes [20:59] <Gonk> What were your new topics, Acky? [20:59] Bah, this is slow. [20:59] Might be a few more seconds. [20:59] <AdmirableAckbar> Ok, nothing big. I can't even remember one of them [20:59] http://boards.theforce.net/denmark/b10365/26685035/p1/ [20:59] <AdmirableAckbar> Just: do anons see SG1's skin or the shit wikia one? [20:59] Ah, crap. [20:59] <Jedimca0> Hmmm.... I've got this Star Wars Fans Group on Myspace. [20:59] <Jedimca0> I could post a topic there. [21:00] Anons see shit. [21:00] <AdmirableAckbar> fuck! [21:00] AFAIK. [21:00] <Gonk> Fiddlesticks. [21:00] Well, I have a plan. [21:00] <AdmirableAckbar> ok, I was watching a discussion in #wikia, wikia are being very firm about this [21:00] I can customize it. [21:00] Like Wookieepedia did. [21:00] <Gonk> :DD [21:00] It might take a couple hours or so, but it can be done. [21:01] <Gonk> Do it [21:01] <AdmirableAckbar> ok, I believe that is all [21:01] :D [21:01] <Jakerl> Its ovah! [21:01] <Gonk> Far out. Acky: [21:01] <Gonk> If you think of that other thing, add it to the agenda for the as-yet-unscheduled CoB 2 [21:01] Oh, I have something really quick. [21:01] <Gonk> ok [21:01] I think we should setup a new forum for IRC meetings. [21:02] Just to give a short detail on the rsults. [21:02] *results [21:02] <Jakerl> Good idea [21:02] <Gonk> Oh [21:02] <Jedimca0> Hmmm.... good idea [21:02] <Gonk> You mean a thread? [21:02] <AdmirableAckbar> or a subpage [21:02] <AdmirableAckbar> wait, huh? [21:02] Well, like Hyperbaric Chamber. [21:02] * AdmirableAckbar is confused [21:02] <AdmirableAckbar> ah [21:02] <Gonk> hmmm [21:02] <AdmirableAckbar> not really necessary, IMHO [21:02] And the Supplication Pit. [21:03] <Gonk> How about this: [21:03] We would add a thread on it with the results, giving small detail about them and provide a link to the transcript. [21:03] <Jedimca0> Sounds good. [21:03] <Gonk> Instead of just listing the meeting transcrpts, like Wookieepedia does for Mofferences, we list them and include a short paragraph with the results, like the Inqs do [21:04] <Gonk> That way it's all in one place. [21:04] <AdmirableAckbar> Yes. [21:04] <Gonk> Maybe a subpage of the main CoB page [21:04] <AdmirableAckbar> But add the transcripts also [21:04] Agreed. [21:04] <Gonk> Right [21:04] <Jedimca0> yes [21:04] <Jakerl> Right [21:04] <Jedimca0> left? :P [21:04] <Gonk> ok SG1, you post the transcript and I'll write the summary, how's that? [21:04] Sure. [21:04] <Gonk> cool [21:04] Meeting over? [21:04] <Gonk> I bid you all DARTH PARTINGS