Simple Darthipedia:Council of Blood/Log/2009 December 5

�03[17:00] * StarNinja99 changes topic to 'Darthipedia: http://darthipedia.org | Site Status: TONIGHT, WE SHALL DINE IN HELL! Also, CoB is NAO | Quotes: http://qdb.darthipedia.org | Late people are supper.�' [17:00] <+Goodwood> w00t [17:00] <+Merc|> Darth Greetings [17:00] <~madclaway> Welcome and Darth greetings [17:00] <+Readmesoon> ping every1 [17:00] <@Enochf> Hmpf �01[17:00] <@SG1|Hereish> \ping [17:00] <+PinkServ> pong �01[17:00] <@SG1|Hereish> Bah. [17:00] <+Goodwood> \blame �01[17:00] <@SG1|Hereish> I was hoping that'd ping everyone. [17:00] <+PinkServ> I blame Readmesoon [17:00] <+Merc|> !ping �03[17:01] * Jedimca0 sets mode: +m [17:01] <+Goodwood> Darth greetings everyone [17:01] <@StarNinja99> Shall we get down to business? [17:01] <~Jedimca0> let's not abuse the bots during the meeting. �03[17:01] * madclaway changes topic to 'Welcome to the COB Item one Improve template�' [17:01] <~madclaway> I'd like to make it mandatory to actually mention how to improve an article after adding Improve on an article. Currently we add Improve to articles withput a proper explanation, this works frustrating for both the author who doesn't know what needs to be fixed as well as the one adding the template who doesn't understand why the article isn't improved. [17:01] <~Jedimca0> Fully agree �01[17:01] <@SG1|Hereish> I'm for. [17:01] <@StarNinja99> I support this [17:01] <+Merc|> I'm all for leaving messages on talk pages explaining why its improved [17:01] <+Goodwood> Fully support. �06[17:02] * +Merc| approves [17:02] <@Jack> strong support from me too [17:02] <~Jedimca0> and I know I'm one of the people forgetting that sometimes... [17:02] <+Goodwood> The person putting up the template should also /be specific/. [17:02] <+Goodwood> Not just say that "it sucks". [17:02] <+MrBlonde267> I would like to bring something up as long as we're talking about the improve template. [17:02] <~Jedimca0> yeah. [17:02] <+Merc|> whats up Billy? �03[17:02] * madclaway is now known as Madclaw [17:02] <+MrBlonde267> Can we distinguish between articles with potential that should be improved for quality... and articles that need to be improved so they don't plain suck? [17:02] <@StarNinja99> May be a good idea to alter the improve template so that the reasons can be said right on the page [17:03] <~Jedimca0> say stuff like, "it violates link to policy" [17:03] <+Goodwood> Per both Billeh and Nina. [17:03] <+Merc|> Per Goodwood [17:03] <~Madclaw> yeh thats the idea ( both to Ninja and Billy ) [17:03] <~Jedimca0> articles that just plain suck usually get killed by an admin, or at least, they should be. [17:03] <+MrBlonde267> I've seen perfectly harmless otherwise okay but small articles get deleted because they haven't been improved. [17:03] <@StarNinja99> per Jed [17:04] <+Goodwood> Per Jed. [17:04] <+Goodwood> Moar superlaser. [17:04] <~Madclaw> Billy, even if an article is deleted you can always reqeust the undeletion of an article [17:04] <~Madclaw> also [17:04] <~Madclaw> maybe a small amendment to DP:AA [17:05] <@StarNinja99> What kind of amendment? [17:05] <@Enochf> A small one [17:05] <@StarNinja99> lol [17:05] <~Madclaw> another admin /may/ undelete an article and transfer it to userspace so it can be improved from there [17:05] <+Goodwood> Support. [17:05] <@StarNinja99> Agreed [17:05] <+Merc|> Aye �01[17:05] <@SG1|Hereish> Per you. [17:05] <@Enochf> Yea [17:05] <~Jedimca0> support. [17:05] <@Enochf> Can't think of anything I'd undelete, but yea anyway [17:06] <~Madclaw> okidoki [17:06] <+MrBlonde267> I mean not like we're losing great material... but things that don't /need/ to be deleted. �01[17:06] <@SG1|Hereish> Back to subject of providing a reason, how long should the template stay up without any before it is removed? [17:06] <~Jedimca0> per MrBlonde267 [17:06] <+Goodwood> Two weeks. [17:06] <@Enochf> I might undelete and/or completely rewrite Mario, I guess ^_^ [17:06] <~Madclaw> if you see something you think you can improve but is deleted request either the admin to restore it upfront or another admin to restore and move to userspace [17:06] <~Jedimca0> per Goodwood [17:06] <@StarNinja99> I'd say two weeks �01[17:06] <@SG1|Hereish> Two weeks seems like overkill, IMO. I was thinking a week maximum. [17:06] <~Madclaw> yeah two weeks �01[17:06] <@SG1|Hereish> But whatever. [17:07] <@StarNinja99> yeah, per woodnogood [17:07] <~Jedimca0> we've had it at two weeks since the start. [17:07] <+Readmesoon> so are we still on improve templates? [17:07] <+Merc|> I'd say per geeky �05[17:07] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Merc| in #darthipedia: say per geeky [17:07] <~Madclaw> per Jed and a previous COB [17:07] <~Jedimca0> that is, before it's free to be nominated for deletion. [17:07] <+Merc|> a week is better [17:07] <@Enochf> Improve template... and a small amendment �01[17:07] <@SG1|Hereish> I mean, if I were writing an article that was perfectly fine and somebody came up and tagged it with but with no reason, I'd hate to see that template sit there for two weeks. [17:07] <~Jedimca0> we decided on two weeks to give people the best possible chance before it gets killed. �01[17:08] <@SG1|Hereish> Jedi: No, I'm not talking about before it's deleted. [17:08] <@Enochf> OK, needs a reason [17:08] <~Madclaw> no no �01[17:08] <@SG1|Hereish> I'm talking about before the template is removed. For not having any reason given. [17:08] <+Readmesoon> ah, well this might be a bit late, but as for the reason it was tagged or how it can be improved you can always make that part of the template. just have or  on it [17:08] <~Jedimca0> yeah, but maybe that person won't be back until the next weekend. [17:08] <@Enochf> And if anyone wants to stick a "this is not funny" tag in, then just grow some balls and Sarlacc Pit the thing [17:08] <+Goodwood> Geeky, if they don't leave a reason after this ammendment takes place, then the template can be removed. [17:08] <+Readmesoon> and put teh explantion in it. �05[17:08] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Goodwood in #darthipedia: if they don't leave a reason after this ammendment takes place, then the template can be removed. [17:08] <~Madclaw> if you wrote a article thats fine within itse;f and someone tags it with and you disagree just remove it [17:09] <~Jedimca0> Readmesoon: most explanations are long... so that would would make the template big. [17:09] <@StarNinja99> Probably a good idea to just undo any Improve that is put up without an explanation just as a ways to enforce it [17:09] <~Madclaw> reasons go on the talkpage, period [17:09] <+Goodwood> Per Nina. �01[17:09] <@SG1|Hereish> Hold up guys. Lemme make one small modification to the improve template and see how you feel about this. [17:09] <~Jedimca0> Madclaw: do we want people just removing the template? [17:09] <~Madclaw> okidoki [17:09] <~Madclaw> yeah [17:09] <~Jedimca0> we've blocked people for removing it... :/ [17:09] <+Readmesoon> i woudln't [17:09] <~Madclaw> as long as they specify the reason they removed it [17:10] <@StarNinja99> per Madclaw [17:10] <~Jedimca0> ok, specify reason on talk page. [17:10] <~Jedimca0> can live with that. [17:10] <~Madclaw> what matters is the spirit in why they add / remove the template [17:10] <@StarNinja99> that or the experiment geeky is doing. �05[17:10] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by StarNinja99 in #darthipedia: or the experiment geeky is doing. [17:10] <+Goodwood> If someone removes it after adding to the article, then it's not necessarily bad. [17:10] <~Jedimca0> so both for adding and removing one must provide a reason on the article talk page. [17:11] <@StarNinja99> We also may want to make a rule that the author is not to remove the template himself, just so the removal is unbiased [17:11] <~Madclaw> ya [17:11] <+Goodwood> Eh. �01[17:11] <@SG1|Hereish> http://darth.wikia.com/wiki/Chimaera �01[17:11] <@SG1|Hereish> There. [17:11] <~Madclaw> no to Nina [17:11] <@StarNinja99> May I ask why not? �01[17:11] <@SG1|Hereish> [17:11] <+Goodwood> That works [17:11] <@StarNinja99> looks good to me Geeky �05[17:11] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by StarNinja99 in #darthipedia: good to me Geeky [17:12] <+Merc|> Geeky: that looks good �05[17:12] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Merc| in #darthipedia: that looks good [17:12] <~Jedimca0> but... what if the reason is longer then just one or two words? [17:12] <~Madclaw> add the thingy to the talkpage too [17:12] <+Readmesoon> that's what i said. [17:12] <~Jedimca0> the template would fuck up the page if you added a few lines to the template. �01[17:12] <@SG1|Hereish> Jedi: I see no problem. [17:12] <+Readmesoon> muaaahahhaha �01[17:12] <@SG1|Hereish> No, it shouldn't. �01[17:13] <@SG1|Hereish> The template would just look a bit larger. [17:13] <~Madclaw> I still thing that consulting the talkpage would be a better idea [17:13] <@StarNinja99> If it is an especially long explanation, you just put a two cents version up, then add a longer version on their talk page [17:13] <+Readmesoon> i think geek's edit works. [17:13] <~Jedimca0> ok, "this page is poorly written, it is not funny and the infobox looks weird. there are sections without content, there is bad code everywhere and there is no real story what so ever. pleas see our Manual of Stile and improve this article or it will be deleted. thank you." [17:13] <~Madclaw> per Jedi [17:14] <~Jedimca0> ^that (or maybe more) in the template? :/ �01[17:14] <@SG1|Hereish> Lemme see. [17:14] <+Merc|> I say put a summary of your complaint(s) in the template and the rest in the talk page [17:14] <@StarNinja99> O_O [17:14] <@StarNinja99> I can't beleive I can actually say "per meccie" [17:14] <~Madclaw> the spirit behind my proposal is that instead of or  we actually take some effort to explain how to improve something [17:14] <~Jedimca0> Per Merc|, that sounds more practical, yes. [17:14] <+Goodwood> lol [17:14] <~Jedimca0> heh [17:14] <+Goodwood> Per Merc|. �01[17:15] <@SG1|Hereish> http://darth.wikia.com/wiki/User:Supergeeky1/Workshop �01[17:15] <@SG1|Hereish> See there. [17:15] <~Jedimca0> per Madclaw [17:15] <+Goodwood> Merc| and Madclaw [17:15] <+MrBlonde267> constructive criticism. [17:15] <@StarNinja99> IMHO it looks good to me �01[17:15] <@SG1|Hereish> Well, IMO, adding it both to the template and the talk page is unnecessary. [17:15] <+Goodwood> BTW, after the COB I think I'll make a list of ImpStars that were PWNed by Rebels. [17:15] <~Jedimca0> yeah, but I think that text is small and will be easily missed. [17:16] <~Madclaw> if we only choose one option were better off with the talkpage �01[17:16] <@SG1|Hereish> If it's a /really/ long explanation, then we'll direct users to the talk page and put a little "See talk page" notice in the reason field. [17:16] <~Madclaw> it has far more options [17:16] <+Readmesoon> i like it. [17:16] <+Goodwood> The template could still use an autolink to the talk page. [17:16] <~Jedimca0> a more personal message on the talk page might work better in motivating someone to work on it. [17:16] <+Merc|> Per Goodwood [17:16] <~Madclaw> when in doubt, take it to talk [17:17] <@StarNinja99> ^paraphrase of what I was about to say �01[17:17] <@SG1|Hereish> And we can always put a line in the template with something along the lines of "If you disagree with this template, then leave your support of this article on the talk page giving details on why you think it doesn't need to be improved". [17:17] <~Jedimca0> plus, they have a place where they can reply. [17:17] <+Goodwood> Yes, Geeky, with the autolink to talk. �05[17:17] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Goodwood in #darthipedia: Geeky, with the autolink to talk. [17:17] <~Jedimca0> and more text in the template. [17:18] <~Jedimca0> a template should give you a short message, not have you sitting down and reading the thing for 5 minutes. [17:18] <~Madclaw> yeah �01[17:18] <@SG1|Hereish> [17:16] <@SG1|Hereish> If it's a /really/ long explanation, then we'll direct users to the talk page and put a little "See talk page" notice in the reason field. [17:18] <+Merc|> on #wikia [17:18] <+Merc|> [17:16]	-->|	Rape (n=5868db53@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/x-noxeirxvjrlvmzrs) has joined #wikia [17:18] <+Merc|> [17:17]		FUCK MY BLACK ASS [17:19] <+Merc|> [17:17]	|<--	Rape has left freenode (Excess Flood) [17:19] <+Merc|> �03[17:19] * Merc| was kicked by Madclaw (Madclaw�) �03[17:19] * Merc| (~chatzilla@Darthipedia/User/Merc) has joined #darthipedia �03[17:19] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Merc| �01[17:19] <@SG1|Hereish> Or, perhaps, we could make a template similar to Uncyclopedia's. �01[17:19] <@SG1|Hereish> To go at the bottom of the page. [17:19] <~Madclaw> Geeky, linky? �05[17:19] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Madclaw in #darthipedia: linky? [17:19] <@Jack> ICU template, Geeky? �05[17:19] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Jack in #darthipedia: template, Geeky? [17:19] <@StarNinja99> Meccie: Anything more off topic and you get muted. [17:19] <@StarNinja99> anyways [17:19] <@Jack> (or well, ICU and the like) �01[17:19] <@SG1|Hereish> Oh wait. My bad. �01[17:19] <@SG1|Hereish> The one I'm thinking of is the peer review. �01[17:20] <@SG1|Hereish> Err, pee. [17:20] <+Goodwood> lol �01[17:20] <@SG1|Hereish> I have no idea what the ICU template is. [17:20] <~Madclaw> I still think we'd be beetter off with a clear message on the talkpage [17:20] <@StarNinja99> wow. long ass topic [17:20] <~Jedimca0> per Madclaw [17:20] <@Jack> Geeky: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Template:ICU [17:20] <@Enochf> ICU? [17:20] <~Madclaw> for instance �05[17:20] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Jack in #darthipedia: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Template:ICU �01[17:20] <@SG1|Hereish> Well, whatever works. [17:21] <~Jedimca0> add a link to the template, and explain on the talk page. [17:21] <~Madclaw> yeah �01[17:21] <@SG1|Hereish> IMO, the reason field on the template is more direct and easier for new users. [17:21] <@Enochf> Oh, meh. What Jed said. [17:21] <~Madclaw> short summary on the template, specific explanations on the talkpage �01[17:21] <@SG1|Hereish> But then again, so is MyHome and masthead. ^_^ [17:21] <~Jedimca0> heh [17:21] <@StarNinja99> I'm staying with Geeky on this one. �05[17:21] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by StarNinja99 in #darthipedia: staying with Geeky on this one. [17:22] <@StarNinja99> But it appears we need a straight yay/nay vote on this [17:22] <@Enochf> Eh, new users will need to have us explain it to them anyway [17:22] <~Jedimca0> per StarNinja [17:22] <@Enochf> New users are like animals [17:22] <~Madclaw> Enochf is correct [17:22] <@Enochf> And I *slaughtered* them like animals! �01[17:22] <@SG1|Hereish> lol [17:22] <~Jedimca0> they're more likely to reply on a talk page. [17:22] <@StarNinja99> lol [17:22] <~Jedimca0> if they have questions. [17:22] <~Madclaw> and this wiki isn't big enough for more animals other than myself [17:22] <+Goodwood> Support for Madclaw's proposal of simple message in template, longer in talkpage. [17:22] <~Jedimca0> The talk page is more "personal" [17:23] <+Merc|> I support Madclaw's proposal [17:23] <@StarNinja99> I like woody's "middle path" compromise [17:23] <~Jedimca0> the ICU thingy looks good. �02[17:23] * +MrBlonde267 (~chatzilla@ool-4579a369.dyn.optonline.net) Quit (Ping timeout�) [17:24] <~Madclaw> only a short summary in the template if the reasons are abvious, and a longer explanation on the talkpage when needed [17:24] <@Enochf> The ICU as a model to emulate, or the ICU template itself? �01[17:24] <@SG1|Hereish> You all know how I'm voting. Somewhat simple reason in the template and an optional longer reason on the talk page. [17:24] <@Enochf> Because we don't need another template taking up room and confusing everybody [17:24] <@Enochf> Just fix the one we've got [17:24] <~Jedimca0> and short summaries would be anything under about 10 words in my mind. �01[17:24] <@SG1|Hereish> With a line of text telling users to use the talk page if they feel the template should be removed. [17:24] <+Merc|> per Jedi [17:24] <+Goodwood> Per Jedi. [17:24] <@StarNinja99> Well... [17:24] <@Enochf> Under *12* words! [17:25] <~Madclaw> This article sucks because other reasons may be seen on the talkpage <-- something like that? [17:25] <~Jedimca0> hehe [17:25] <@Enochf> *13*! [17:25] <+Merc|> So: a short ten word summary in the template with a link to the talk page with a more in depth complaint [17:25] <@StarNinja99> At this point I'd agree that talk pages are more personal [17:25] <+Goodwood> If someone has obviously fixed the issues listed on the Improve template, though, they should be able to remove it without having to leave boring messages. [17:25] <@StarNinja99> good point �01[17:25] <@SG1|Hereish> TBH, putting a summary on the template defeats the whole purpose. Either do one or the other. [17:26] <~Jedimca0> per Goodwood, though a short "fixed --~" is advisable. [17:26] <~Madclaw> if it's gonna be one of two ways I'd say talkpage [17:26] <~Jedimca0> per Madclaw [17:26] <+Goodwood> Jed: How about in the edit summary? [17:26] <@StarNinja99> The majorities for talk pages. So, looks like its gonna be talk pages if its one way or the other [17:26] <~Jedimca0> that would work too. [17:26] <+Goodwood> We could always take this to CT. [17:26] <~Madclaw> people who are in it for the long run or actually care about whatever they are creating won't have a real problem of fixing whenever needs to be fixed [17:26] <@StarNinja99> meh. Explanations in Edit Summaries is way to impersonal [17:26] <+Goodwood> Though it shouldn't bge necessary. [17:26] <~Jedimca0> and debate it some more over the next few weeks... :/ [17:26] <+Merc|> I say we have the vote now or take it to the CT [17:27] <~Jedimca0> no, I think that's needed. [17:27] <~Madclaw> move to CT? [17:27] <@StarNinja99> Yay [17:27] <+Goodwood> Support. �01[17:27] <@SG1|Hereish> I'm kind of for the CT. [17:27] <~Jedimca0> I mean... I think everyone already kinda agrees about "both" [17:27] <@Enochf> Both [17:27] <+Goodwood> Per Jedi. [17:27] <~Madclaw> ok hear me out [17:27] <@Enochf> Vote both now! [17:27] <@StarNinja99> oi [17:28] <@StarNinja99> This is getting counter productive. I think we should really CT this [17:28] <~Jedimca0> I mean, I'm all for a in the template. [17:28] <~Madclaw> and possible additional reasons can be seen on the talkpage �01[17:28] <@SG1|Hereish> Except it's a waste of time to do both. [17:28] <~Jedimca0> but longer explanations should go to the talk page. �01[17:28] <@SG1|Hereish> The was there mainly to save time. [17:28] <~Madclaw> Geeky, we only do both if we need to �05[17:28] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Madclaw in #darthipedia: we only do both if we need to [17:29] <~Jedimca0> SG1|Hereish: for most articles you won't have to... cause most that get already half hopeless anyway. ;) �05[17:29] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Jedimca0 in #darthipedia: for most articles you won't have to... cause most that get already half hopeless anyway. ;) [17:29] <~Madclaw> for little fixes and consult talkpage for more fixes [17:29] <+Goodwood> Per Madclaw. [17:29] <+Goodwood> Motion for up/down vote on Madclaw's proposal. [17:29] <+Merc|> Support [17:29] <~Jedimca0> Support for Madclaw's proposal. [17:30] <@Enochf> Talk page for fixes that take more than 10 words to explain [17:30] <@Enochf> 12 [17:30] <@Enochf> 13! �06[17:30] * @SG1|Hereish shrugs. �01[17:30] <@SG1|Hereish> Support, I suppose. [17:30] <+Goodwood> Enochf: Yay or nay. [17:30] <+Readmesoon> support [17:30] <@Enochf> Yay [17:30] <@StarNinja99> support [17:30] <+Goodwood> Thank you. [17:30] <~Madclaw> done �01[17:30] <@SG1|Hereish> 30 FUCKING MINUTES [17:30] <+Goodwood> lol [17:30] <+Readmesoon> christ. [17:30] <+Merc|> oi �01[17:30] <@SG1|Hereish> 1 TEMPLATE �03[17:30] * Madclaw changes topic to 'Item 2 Bureaucrat deletion�' [17:30] <@Enochf> That's the time to beat for the next topic [17:31] <~Madclaw> A new policy allowing bureaucrats to review and delete any article tagged with as they see fit, without having to go through an SP vote first. This gives them the opportunity to delete articles faster if they are a clear violation of the Manual of Style or any other guidelines, or if they feel necessary, re-tag it with  or. â€” SG1 [citation needed] 18:27, October 16,... �01[17:31] <@SG1|Hereish> Madclaw: Skip. �05[17:31] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Madclaw in #darthipedia: new policy allowing bureaucrats to review and delete any article tagged with as they see fit, without having to go through an SP vote first. This gives them the opportunity to delete articles faster if they are a clear violation of the Manual of Style or any other guidelines, or if they feel necessary, re-tag it with  or. â€” SG1 [citation needed] 18:2 [17:31] <~Madclaw> ...2009 (UTC) [17:31] <+Goodwood> Skip/support [17:31] <~Madclaw> I say move to CT �01[17:31] <@SG1|Hereish> As you pointed out, there already is a policy which I didn't take into account. [17:31] <~Jedimca0> Support/move to CT [17:31] <+Goodwood> Support/move to CT [17:31] <@Enochf> Eh... [17:31] <+Merc|> move to CT [17:31] <@Enochf> Yeah, move to CT [17:31] <~Jedimca0> wait... [17:31] <~Jedimca0> [23:31]		As you pointed out, there already is a policy which I didn't take into account. [17:31] <~Madclaw> scratch that I veto move to CT and keep it the way it is [17:31] <@StarNinja99> No CT [17:31] <~Madclaw> XD [17:31] <+Goodwood> Okay. [17:32] <+Goodwood> No CT. [17:32] <@StarNinja99> oi [17:32] <~Jedimca0> why vote on it if we already have? �03[17:32] * Madclaw changes topic to 'Item 3 ID drive�' �06[17:32] * +Goodwood is starting to get dizzy. [17:32] <~Jedimca0> VETO! :P [17:32] <~Madclaw> Geeky you have the floor �05[17:32] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Madclaw in #darthipedia: you have the floor [17:32] <@Enochf> A way to handle it might be to plan for, say, two Order 66's a year, six months apart, and make them housecleaning sessions so that anyone can mark victims, and admins can delete them with discretion �01[17:32] <@SG1|Hereish> Oh God. [17:32] <+Goodwood> Yes? �01[17:32] <@SG1|Hereish> We're moving back to the improve template. �01[17:32] <@SG1|Hereish> Re-exploring the idea of an improvement drive or something to that effect. — SG1 [citation needed] 18:27, October 16, 2009 (UTC) [17:32] <~Madclaw> I like that �01[17:32] <@SG1|Hereish> It certainly worked for Wook. [17:32] <@StarNinja99> Oh lordie [17:32] <~Madclaw> a nice new box for the main page to fill it up a bit �01[17:32] <@SG1|Hereish> And it could work for us. �06[17:32] * +Goodwood is on the fence about an ID drive. �06[17:32] * ~Jedimca0 like �01[17:32] <@SG1|Hereish> Per Maddy. �01[17:33] <@SG1|Hereish> The only thing I don't like the thought of is having a new thing to vote on. [17:33] <@Enochf> A scheduled Order 66 is OK, but inspiration is harder to control than the desire to kill bad articles [17:33] <@Enochf> So improvement drives are iffy [17:33] <+Goodwood> Per Geeky. �05[17:33] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Goodwood in #darthipedia: Geeky. �01[17:33] <@SG1|Hereish> But meh, if it helps the community out, then so be it. [17:33] <+Goodwood> And per Enochf. [17:33] <~Madclaw> so how does this work? we pick something for I-Drive and ultimatly FS'it? [17:33] <@StarNinja99> per Enochf [17:33] <~Jedimca0> Madclaw: I'd say that's the intent. �01[17:33] <@SG1|Hereish> Yeah. [17:33] <~Jedimca0> but also, per Enochf [17:33] <+Goodwood> Possibly. [17:34] <+Goodwood> A lot of our stuff is single-author, though. �01[17:34] <@SG1|Hereish> Something we all agree has mass potential. �02[17:34] * @ChanServ (ChanServ@services.shoutwiki.com) Quit (Killed (Az1568_ (cuz))�) �03[17:34] * ChanServ (ChanServ@services.shoutwiki.com) has joined #darthipedia �03[17:34] * services.shoutwiki.com sets mode: +o ChanServ [17:34] <+AlfredPennyworth> RED ALERT!!! FEMALE HAS ENTERED ROOM!!! �06[17:34] * +AlfredPennyworth covers his balls. [17:34] <~Madclaw> or [17:34] <+Goodwood> Only recently have multi-author articles gotten anywhere. [17:34] <@StarNinja99> XD [17:34] <@StarNinja99> even so �03[17:34] * StarNinja99 sets mode: -v AlfredPennyworth [17:34] <~Madclaw> I have an idea �03[17:34] * SG1|Hereish sets mode: +v AlfredPennyworth �01[17:34] <@SG1|Hereish> Nina: We're gonna need links. [17:34] <~Madclaw> lets put the I-Drive idea to the side for a bit [17:34] <@StarNinja99> Ah [17:34] <@StarNinja99> Good point �01[17:35] <@SG1|Hereish> CT it? [17:35] <~Madclaw> no [17:35] <~Madclaw> the I-Drive process can be lead by the FS/AoE panel [17:35] <@StarNinja99> ah [17:35] <~Madclaw> have them vote on it �01[17:35] <@SG1|Hereish> Oooohhh. [17:35] <~Jedimca0> think about it some more... leave it on the COB agenda for next time... �01[17:35] <@SG1|Hereish> I gotcha. [17:35] <+Goodwood> I personally have no interest in I-drives, though. [17:35] <~Madclaw> ; [17:35] <@StarNinja99> Yesh [17:35] <@StarNinja99> Okay then [17:35] <@StarNinja99> Shall we move on? �01[17:35] <@SG1|Hereish> So, topic 3.5? [17:35] <~Jedimca0> next! :) [17:35] <+Goodwood> Yeah. �01[17:35] <@SG1|Hereish> Also while we're at it, possibly removing the QOTW from the main page or replacing it with a random quote feature. We may also wanna explore the latter as an option for COTW. — SG1 [citation needed] 01:47, October 22, 2009 (UTC) [17:36] <~Madclaw> if we decide to create the FS/AoE panel we can put the I-Drive to them �01[17:36] <@SG1|Hereish> Let's face it, both are a nuiscance. [17:36] <@StarNinja99> I fully support random QOTW [17:36] <~Madclaw> if we don't create the panel we can CT the I-Drive idea [17:36] <@StarNinja99> I rather like the random feature [17:36] <~Madclaw> sound good? [17:36] <+Goodwood> Let's take this one step at a time. [17:36] <~Madclaw> were not on that yet �01[17:36] <@SG1|Hereish> Good. [17:36] <~Madclaw> still I-Drive topic :P [17:36] <@StarNinja99> :/ �01[17:36] <@SG1|Hereish> Yeah, my bad. I had thought we moved on. [17:36] <~Jedimca0> per Madclaw if the panel doest go through, CT the I-Drive [17:37] <~Madclaw> next! :) [17:37] <~Madclaw> [23:36]		So, topic 3.5? �05[17:37] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Madclaw in #darthipedia: topic 3.5? [17:37] <~Madclaw> [23:36]		Yeah. �01[17:37] <@SG1|Hereish> Let's face it, both are a nuiscance. [17:37] <~Madclaw> last time I checked Woody didn't lead this COB ;) [17:37] <~Jedimca0> I'm kinda hoping Enochf can overhaul the QotW to whatever system he sees fit and take it under his wing, provided he's willing to do so. Madclaw Shyriiwook! 06:47, October 22, 2009 (UTC) �01[17:37] <@SG1|Hereish> In fact we've had to plenty of times use quotes twice. [17:37] <~Jedimca0> ^per that. [17:37] <+Goodwood> lol �01[17:37] <@SG1|Hereish> [17:35] <~Jedimca0> next! :) �01[17:37] <@SG1|Hereish> Yeah, but Jedi does. [17:37] <@Enochf> NEXT! :) [17:37] <~Madclaw> no [17:37] <~Jedimca0> or go with random Quotes. �03[17:37] * Madclaw changes topic to 'Item 4 QOTW�' [17:38] <+Goodwood> If we go with random quotes, who decides what quotes go into the queue? [17:38] <@StarNinja99> I'm in support of random [17:38] <~Madclaw> the admins do [17:38] <@StarNinja99> More bang for the buck [17:38] <@Enochf> Oy, I'd probably want to go in and clean some of them up first... [17:38] <~Jedimca0> per Madclaw [17:38] <+Goodwood> I'm in support of random as well, but I say make it random per hour. �01[17:38] <@SG1|Hereish> Or the FS/AoE panel. [17:38] <+Goodwood> Like with the Random FS. [17:38] <~Madclaw> the nomination list stays so people can nominate stuff [17:38] <@Enochf> But then, I've always wondered about whether or not to keep bad grammar in a quote if it was made on the 'net �01[17:38] <@SG1|Hereish> Or we just get Enochf to do it. [17:38] <@StarNinja99> radnom per hour, oi that'd get confusing [17:38] <@StarNinja99> *random [17:38] <@Enochf> Yeah, sure, throw a bunch of work in my lap (weeps) [17:39] <+Goodwood> Well then just random refresh or however the Random FS works. [17:39] <+Goodwood> The QotW nomination page needs a major facelift and update. [17:39] <~Madclaw> lets just create a random Quote template with everything we have so far [17:39] <~Jedimca0> if Enochf wants to do it... I'll support it. [17:39] <+Goodwood> Per Madclaw [17:39] <@StarNinja99> per Woody's second comment �01[17:39] <@SG1|Hereish> And COTW? [17:39] <~Madclaw> keep the nomination page for new quotes [17:39] <+Merc|> support [17:39] <~Jedimca0> but if not, I'll support the random thingy [17:39] <@StarNinja99> and per Madclaw [17:39] <+Readmesoon> but how do they get selected? [17:39] <~Madclaw> same for COTW [17:39] <+Readmesoon> oh [17:39] <+Goodwood> No, I like the CotW. [17:39] <~Madclaw> but we still vote on COTW [17:39] <+Readmesoon> admins or votes? [17:40] <@Enochf> I dunno. The way Darth is currently set up, I think a vote threshold of +6 or maybe +8 would work. [17:40] <~Jedimca0> for the quotes admins, for the captions vote. [17:40] <@StarNinja99> COTW is another one I'd like randomized, but that could possibly get ugly [17:40] <~Madclaw> we can make the Quote nomination page for votes tho [17:40] <~Jedimca0> Enochf: +3 is more likely to have success... :P [17:40] <+Goodwood> I'd go with a +5 threshold for quotes, though. [17:40] <~Jedimca0> per Madclaw [17:40] <+Goodwood> Heh. �01[17:40] <@SG1|Hereish> I wanna completely redo the COTW template. [17:40] <~Madclaw> a +6 threshold works for me �01[17:40] <@SG1|Hereish> It's so hideous atm. [17:41] <@Enochf> I'd like to see COTW randomized, to make proper use of all those pics [17:41] <~Jedimca0> per Enochf �01[17:41] <@SG1|Hereish> Everything's uncentered. [17:41] <+Goodwood> Per Geeky. �05[17:41] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Goodwood in #darthipedia: Geeky. [17:41] <~Madclaw> if you wanna volunteer to overhaul the COTW geeky go ahead �05[17:41] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Madclaw in #darthipedia: you wanna volunteer to overhaul the COTW geeky go ahead [17:41] <@StarNinja99> indeed [17:41] <+Goodwood> And Enochf [17:41] <+SirTopHat> I got SW I and II on DVD finally [17:41] <+SirTopHat> bbl [17:41] <@Enochf> Can't make head or tail of eitehr of the nomination pages [17:41] <+Goodwood> Yeah Geeky, �05[17:41] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Goodwood in #darthipedia: Geeky, [17:41] <@Enochf> Seems like noms stay there even weeks after they're already front-paged �01[17:41] <@SG1|Hereish> Yeah, except after this meeting, I begin my facation. �01[17:41] <@SG1|Hereish> *vacation [17:41] <~Jedimca0> So, Random COTW and QOTW, yay or nay? [17:41] <~Madclaw> yay [17:41] <+Goodwood> Yay [17:41] <~Jedimca0> yar [17:41] <@Enochf> facation = vacation + fap [17:41] <@StarNinja99> yay �01[17:41] <@SG1|Hereish> Yay. [17:41] <~Jedimca0> *yay [17:41] <+Merc|> yay [17:42] <@Enochf> Yay [17:42] <~Madclaw> and worl out the quircks later [17:42] <@StarNinja99> indeed [17:42] <+Merc|> per Madclaw [17:42] <+Goodwood> iron out the kinks [17:42] <@Enochf> Yeah, worl out the quircks indeed [17:42] <~Jedimca0> do we want to vote on making a vote page for QOTW too? [17:42] <+Goodwood> Okay. [17:42] <~Madclaw> why not [17:42] <+Goodwood> Nay. [17:42] <~Jedimca0> yay or nay? :) [17:42] <@StarNinja99> now here comes the real meat [17:42] <+Goodwood> Nay. [17:42] <~Madclaw> I'll overhaul the QUOT page for it �01[17:42] <@SG1|Hereish> I say yay. [17:42] <@Enochf> Um, er, um... [17:42] <@Enochf> Um... [17:42] <+Goodwood> ? [17:42] <@Enochf> *sigh* Yay �01[17:42] <@SG1|Hereish> Per Enochf. [17:43] <~Jedimca0> I'd say yay for new quotes. [17:43] <@StarNinja99> SAY YES FOR A *BRAND NEW CAR* [17:43] <@StarNinja99> err [17:43] <+Goodwood> lol [17:43] <@StarNinja99> sorry, no keys [17:43] <@StarNinja99> anyways �03[17:43] * Madclaw changes topic to 'Item 5 Inquisitorious�' [17:43] <+Goodwood> Nina, stay on target! [17:43] <~Jedimca0> we'll need to go through the old ones and see which ones we and and which we don't. [17:43] <~Madclaw> Geeky �05[17:43] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Madclaw in #darthipedia: �01[17:43] <@SG1|Hereish> Nobody expects the Darthipedia Inquisition. [17:43] <@Enochf> Jed, you can caps or quotes? [17:43] <@Enochf> *mean [17:43] <~Madclaw> the floor is yours again �01[17:43] <@SG1|Hereish> Creating a user group vaguely similar to Wook's Inquisitorious. There's several Featured Sithspawn that either don't meet the current requirements or could use a good overhaul (Darth Elmo for one, which has become the official dumping ground for rejected SWFanon cruft). The point is, most of the Featured Sithspawn really aren't the best that Darth has to offer and I don't believe we should be flaunting them as such, so the natural thing to do is strip their featured status. — SG1 [citation needed] 01:47, October 22, 2009 (UTC) [17:43] <@StarNinja99> Now this is what Ive been waiting for [17:43] <~Jedimca0> Enochf: quotes [17:43] <+Goodwood> Support. [17:44] <@Enochf> Aha, then I agree. And now finally I'm moving on. �01[17:44] <@SG1|Hereish> There are a loooot of articles I'd like to see removed of their featured status. [17:44] <@Enochf> Heh �01[17:44] <@SG1|Hereish> A looooooooot. [17:44] <+Goodwood> Indeed. [17:44] <@StarNinja99> I'm in full support of this. As long as we get a new name for it :P �01[17:44] <@SG1|Hereish> Articles like Darth Darths Binks. [17:44] <~Madclaw> yes [17:44] <~Madclaw> I have a sweet name for it �01[17:44] <@SG1|Hereish> They were made before we had most of the rules set up. [17:44] <+Merc|> Full Support [17:44] <+Goodwood> How about that Bright Tree Village council thingy? [17:44] <~Jedimca0> I fully support that... and I'll also volunteer to clean up the Darth Elmo article a bit (since it's mention in the agenda as a sucky FS ;) ) [17:44] <@Enochf> Sweet name reveal! [17:44] <+Readmesoon> suggestion: [17:44] <~Madclaw> the G*nquistadores [17:44] <+Goodwood> And full support �01[17:44] <@SG1|Hereish> And quite a few of them were only given featured status because they're sorta funny. [17:44] <+Goodwood> lol [17:45] <@Enochf> Fuck yeah Madclaw [17:45] <+Merc|> Madclaw: XD �01[17:45] <@SG1|Hereish> Not because they're the best Darthipedia has to offer. [17:45] <@StarNinja99> XDS [17:45] <@StarNinja99> Nice [17:45] <+Readmesoon> maybe we could do something along what uncyc does, and they link to the revision that was the featured version? [17:45] <~Jedimca0> Nice name Madclaw [17:45] <~Madclaw> :D �01[17:45] <@SG1|Hereish> I agree with the name, but we gotta use Treeta Dobra for some other group. [17:45] <+Goodwood> lol Madclaw �01[17:45] <@SG1|Hereish> Since that's such a kickass name. [17:45] <~Jedimca0> Readmesoon might have a good idea there... �01[17:45] <@SG1|Hereish> !wook Treeta Dobra [17:45] <+AlfredPennyworth> SG1|Hereish: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Treeta_Dobra �05[17:45] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by AlfredPennyworth in #darthipedia: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Treeta_Dobra [17:45] <~Madclaw> Treeta Dobra can be used for the administration [17:46] <+Goodwood> lol [17:46] <@StarNinja99> ah [17:46] <@StarNinja99> And I thought we were called the happy tree friends :( [17:46] <~Jedimca0> support to use Treeta Dobra as the Administration's new name. �01[17:46] <@SG1|Hereish> Bwahahaha. [17:46] <@Enochf> We're not Hutts, we're Darths [17:46] <+Merc|> Support [17:46] <@StarNinja99> support despite my sarcasm [17:46] <~Madclaw> lemme elaborate on the FS/AoE panel a bit [17:46] <+Goodwood> So...was the G*nquistador panel approved? �01[17:47] <@SG1|Hereish> Yeah Maddy, you do that. Whenever the COB starts, my brain goes blank on what to say. [17:47] <@Enochf> I approve, and give me a powdered wig and a guillotine [17:47] <~Madclaw> as a startup for this we'll be starting with Geeky, Woody, tom Enochf and myself as founding members �05[17:47] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Madclaw in #darthipedia: a startup for this we'll be starting with Geeky, Woody, tom Enochf and myself as founding members [17:47] <@Enochf> :D [17:47] <@StarNinja99> okay [17:47] <+Readmesoon> i have a point on this. [17:47] <+Goodwood> :) [17:47] <~Madclaw> I've created a seperate channel for this panels workings [17:47] <+Readmesoon> i would like to elaborate a bit [17:47] <+Readmesoon> anywho: [17:48] <@StarNinja99> I'd like to be involved in this, if there is an open spot one day [17:48] <~Madclaw> go ahead [17:48] <@Enochf> Secret panel channel %_% [17:48] <+Goodwood> Who said anything about secret, Enochf? [17:48] <~Madclaw> Readmesoon, what did you wanna say? [17:48] <@Enochf> Ssssssssh! [17:48] <@Enochf> It's a secret [17:48] <+Readmesoon> the articles were obviously funny at one time. they had to ahve been so that they could get featured. but now, since people added unfunny stuff, we're taking away their titles? not cool. [17:48] <+Merc|> Per Nina I wouldn't mind being involved �01[17:48] <@SG1|Hereish> No, not exactly. [17:49] <+Goodwood> Readme: Part of the job would be to restore them to funny status. [17:49] <+Readmesoon> just find the featured revision and link i on a template, and say "click for featured version" or something [17:49] <~Madclaw> yeah [17:49] <@Enochf> Eh, some of them were kinda... peer-pressured into their featured status [17:49] <~Madclaw> also �01[17:49] <@SG1|Hereish> It's not just that they've been given "unfunny stuff." �01[17:49] <@SG1|Hereish> It's that they were given featured status long before we have the rules we have today. [17:49] <~Madclaw> the panel will work similar to the wook, it's ginna be invite only, the channel I created for it is open to the public view tho [17:49] <~Jedimca0> they'll be reviewed and then you can improve them. �01[17:49] <@SG1|Hereish> Darth Darth Binks for instance, if nominated right now, would not pass. [17:49] <~Jedimca0> which is what I plan to do with Darth Elmo. [17:50] <@Enochf> DDB needs some tweaks �01[17:50] <@SG1|Hereish> That combined, with the fact that some of the articles have been a stomping ground for n00b users and thus need work, is reason enough for them to be stripped, if only temporarily. [17:50] <@Enochf> But he's kind of a tradition, hate to lose teh page [17:50] <~Jedimca0> The panel will look at the articles as if they were up for FS now, and then let us all know what needs to be improved. �01[17:50] <@SG1|Hereish> Half of the articles are not the best Darthipedia has to offer. [17:50] <@Enochf> Check [17:50] <~Jedimca0> if it gets improved, there's not trouble. �01[17:50] <@SG1|Hereish> Yet we exhibit them as such. [17:51] <~Jedimca0> if there are no improvements made... it looses the status. [17:51] <~Madclaw> yeah [17:51] <+Merc|> ah okay [17:51] <+Goodwood> Here's the quote for the FSimprove template: "Give up your lulz, or this'll hurt like a bitch" [17:51] <+Merc|> So support? [17:51] <+Goodwood> Or not. :P [17:51] <~Madclaw> yeah [17:51] <@StarNinja99> yup [17:51] <~Jedimca0> Yay or nay [17:51] <+Goodwood> Support. [17:51] <@StarNinja99> Yay [17:51] <~Jedimca0> yay [17:52] <@Enochf> Yay �01[17:52] <@SG1|Hereish> Yay, of course. [17:52] <+Merc|> support/yay [17:52] <+Readmesoon> si. [17:52] <@Jack> yay [17:52] <@StarNinja99> hay [17:52] <~Madclaw> cool �06[17:52] * @Enochf votes himself more POWAH [17:52] <+Goodwood> bwahahaha [17:52] <@Enochf> Can I vote myself a pay raise too? [17:52] <@StarNinja99> Nope [17:52] <+Goodwood> That's not powah, Enochf. ;) [17:52] <~Madclaw> I'd like to invite Enochf Goodwood Geeky to join #669999 �05[17:52] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Madclaw in #darthipedia: like to invite Enochf Goodwood Geeky to join #669999 �03[17:52] * @StarNinja99 (~chatzilla@Snake_Doctor/baseplate/the_it_has_landed) has left #darthipedia �03[17:52] * StarNinja99 (~chatzilla@Snake_Doctor/baseplate/the_it_has_landed) has joined #darthipedia �03[17:52] * ChanServ sets mode: +o StarNinja99 [17:52] <+AlfredPennyworth> RED ALERT!!! FEMALE HAS ENTERED ROOM!!! �06[17:52] * +AlfredPennyworth covers his balls. [17:52] <@StarNinja99> fuck [17:52] <@StarNinja99> sorry 'bout that [17:53] <@StarNinja99> anywho [17:53] <@Enochf> Bill Bill and Ted Ted: What number am I thinking of? [17:53] <+Goodwood> 669999 �03[17:53] * Madclaw changes topic to '6 Relation of articles to Star Wars�' [17:53] <~Jedimca0> ok, next Item? [17:53] <~Madclaw> Woody, your Item [17:53] <@Enochf> Hmm [17:54] <~Madclaw> Goodwood: Relation of articles to Star Wars [17:54] <~Jedimca0> I'd say: per Madclaw's comment on the COB page. [17:54] <+Goodwood> Oh yeah, hang on [17:54] <@Enochf> *snap, snap* [17:54] <@StarNinja99> oi woody, I have five minutes [17:54] <@Enochf> Hello? McFly? [17:54] <+Goodwood> This was pretty much answered already by Madclaw. [17:54] <+Goodwood> But I wanted to run a baseline check on whether or not everyone thinks there should be a minimum standard for relevancy. �01[17:54] <@SG1|Hereish> !darth DP:COB#Relation of articles to Star Wars [17:54] <+AlfredPennyworth> SG1|Hereish: http://darth.wikia.com/wiki/DP:COB#Relation_of_articles_to_Star_Wars [17:54] <+Goodwood> !darth Destroy your whale �05[17:54] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by AlfredPennyworth in #darthipedia: http://darth.wikia.com/wiki/DP:COB#Relation_of_articles_to_Star_Wars [17:54] <+AlfredPennyworth> Goodwood: http://darth.wikia.com/wiki/Destroy_your_whale [17:55] <@StarNinja99> I'm per Madclaw's comment on that page �01[17:55] <@SG1|Hereish> As much as I hate to say it, I am too. [17:55] <+Goodwood> Same here. [17:55] <~Madclaw> if it's funny it's funny [17:55] <+Merc|> I guess [17:55] <@StarNinja99> If its not [17:55] <+Goodwood> Like I said, Madclaw already answered it. [17:55] <@StarNinja99> *BOOM* [17:55] <@Enochf> It fits the running gag, don't see a problem with that paricular one �01[17:55] <@SG1|Hereish> There's nothing more I'd love to do than whipe out, say, the Spongebob articles or the Twilight ones. [17:55] <@Enochf> I've got a kinda semi-related proposition [17:55] <~Madclaw> okidoki [17:56] <@Enochf> For any article that takes the name of an actual canon Star Wars thingy... �01[17:56] <@SG1|Hereish> But for every bad crossover, there's a good one and we can't exactly pick and choose what topics we want. [17:56] <~Madclaw> true [17:56] <~Jedimca0> per SG1 �05[17:56] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Jedimca0 in #darthipedia: SG1 [17:56] <~Madclaw> hence we have and P{SP}} [17:56] <~Madclaw> * [17:56] <@Enochf> There should be a rule that any article that has a satirical take on the character/thingy itself should take precedence over an article that has a completely invented take [17:56] <+Goodwood> So basically, I withdraw my motion. [17:56] <~Jedimca0> and for the extreme cases. :P [17:56] <+Goodwood> Eh... [17:56] <~Jedimca0> ;) [17:56] <@Enochf> And I'm thinking specifically of the old Leia article here [17:57] <~Jedimca0> Next! per Goodwood withdrawing his motion. :) �05[17:57] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Madclaw in #669999: Geeky [17:57] <~Jedimca0> unless someone disagrees. :) [17:57] <@Enochf> Eh, fine [17:57] <+Goodwood> Next is adopting WP:POINT for Darthipedia �03[17:57] * Madclaw changes topic to 'item 7 DP:POINT�' �03[17:57] * Goodwood was kicked by Madclaw (Madclaw�) �03[17:57] * Goodwood (chatzilla@Darthipedia/CIA/Goodwood) has joined #darthipedia �03[17:57] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Goodwood �01[17:57] <@SG1|Hereish> !darth DP:COB#DP:POINT [17:57] <+AlfredPennyworth> SG1|Hereish: http://darth.wikia.com/wiki/DP:COB#DP:POINT �05[17:58] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by AlfredPennyworth in #darthipedia: http://darth.wikia.com/wiki/DP:COB#DP:POINT [17:58] <~Jedimca0> Enochf: you wanted to someting else? [17:58] <~Jedimca0> *to say [17:58] <@Enochf> Meh, I wasn't really following the agenda, just free-forming [17:58] <@Enochf> I'll make a CT or something [17:58] <~Jedimca0> ah, ok :) [17:58] <~Madclaw> DP:POINT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Do_not_disrupt_Wikipedia_to_illustrate_a_point [17:59] <+Goodwood> Support. [17:59] <~Jedimca0> I fully support such a rule. [17:59] <~Madclaw> I take it everyone knows whatt this policy means? [17:59] <+Merc|> support [17:59] <+Goodwood> It helps to prevent wikilawyering. [17:59] <~Jedimca0> I do. [17:59] <@Enochf> Yeah, support �01[17:59] <@SG1|Hereish> Support. [17:59] <+Merc|> you explained it to me awhile back :P [17:59] <@Jack> strong support [17:59] <+Goodwood> And I've read that policy �01[18:00] <@SG1|Hereish> Even though I'll miss banning Jedi just to make a point. [18:00] <+Goodwood> lol [18:00] <@Enochf> With the understanding that it is acceptable to create articles satirizing other wikis and even their users, as long as it's funny [18:00] <~Madclaw> hehe [18:00] <~Jedimca0> XD [18:00] <~Madclaw> of course [18:00] <+Goodwood> lmao [18:00] <@StarNinja99> support of this [18:00] <+Goodwood> This should be good. [18:00] <+Goodwood> Enthusiastic double-support. [18:00] <@Enochf> ^_^ [18:00] <~Jedimca0> Enochf: as long it does not disrupt the wiki it's cool. [18:00] <@Enochf> Right [18:00] <@StarNinja99> I was rather uneducated on POINT, but I did a little reading up, and it looks good to me [18:00] <~Madclaw> yeah [18:01] <+Goodwood> Wookiepedia has a similar policy, IIRC. [18:01] <+Goodwood> But Madclaw's version will be better. �03[18:01] * Madclaw changes topic to 'last round�' [18:01] <~Jedimca0> yeah, they do. [18:01] <+Merc|> WP:POINT I believe [18:01] <~Jedimca0> Any one else have something to ad? [18:01] <~Madclaw> who has additional items/comments? [18:01] <+Goodwood> What a kowinkidink. �06[18:01] * @SG1|Hereish raises hand. [18:01] <@Enochf> Drink up! The cops are hanging out in the parking lot, so no drinking past closing time! �01[18:01] <@SG1|Hereish> The Celebration V thing. [18:01] <~Jedimca0> yes, SG1|Hereish? [18:01] <+Readmesoon> not me [18:01] <~Madclaw> go ahead Geeky �05[18:01] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Jedimca0 in #darthipedia: SG1|Hereish? �05[18:01] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Madclaw in #darthipedia: ahead Geeky [18:01] <@Enochf> C5? [18:02] <+Goodwood> Yes. �06[18:02] * +Goodwood is totally going. [18:02] <~Madclaw> thats in august 2010 right? �01[18:02] <@SG1|Hereish> I just wanted to see out of the people here, who would be able to attend Celebration V if I should be able to get a table there. �01[18:02] <@SG1|Hereish> Correct Maddy. �06[18:02] * +Goodwood is totally going. [18:02] <+Merc|> Lets go for it. [18:02] <@Enochf> Hmm. Not sure if it's in the cards. [18:02] <@StarNinja99> I do not beleive I will be there �01[18:02] <@SG1|Hereish> Merc|: Well, I don't wanna do it if only two or three people are showing up. [18:02] <~Madclaw> I /might/ be able to go but it's so far in the future I really cant say at this point [18:02] <~Jedimca0> in short... who is going and is willing to sit next to Geeky during the convention? �05[18:02] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Jedimca0 in #darthipedia: short... who is going and is willing to sit next to Geeky during the convention? [18:02] <@Jack> not me, sorry; I'd love to go there though �01[18:02] <@SG1|Hereish> I say at least six or seven, including myself. [18:02] <+Goodwood> I am. [18:02] <@StarNinja99> per Madclaws comment �06[18:02] * @SG1|Hereish grins. [18:02] <@Enochf> I s'pose if a VW bus full of geeks shows up at my doorstep, I might hop in and go [18:03] <~Jedimca0> ...do realize... IRC kickings don't hurt... real kicking does... :P [18:03] <+Goodwood> lol [18:03] <@StarNinja99> I ain't never gonna be able to afford to go down orlando. It just looks bleak to me �01[18:03] <@SG1|Hereish> Oh yeah, and if it helps, I'm gonna do everything in my power to get the table right next to Wookieepedia's booth. [18:03] <~Madclaw> where is CV ? �06[18:03] * +Merc| wouldn't be able to go, but wishes to help with things like designing pamphlets... �01[18:03] <@SG1|Hereish> Orlando Florida. [18:03] <+Goodwood> Orlando, Florida [18:03] <@StarNinja99> Goodwood: Your going? [18:03] <+Goodwood> Yes. [18:03] <@StarNinja99> Then bring your trust thomspon [18:03] <+Goodwood> No. [18:03] <+Goodwood> I'm bringing my lightsaber. �06[18:03] * ~Jedimca0 wishes he could go. �01[18:04] <@SG1|Hereish> Merc|: We could use you then. Depending on if we do go, I'm gonna need a lot of designs. [18:04] <@StarNinja99> Because if I was going, I'd be spraying their table with fake bullets [18:04] <@Jack> Jedimca0: who doesn't? �01[18:04] <@SG1|Hereish> For shirts, hats, buttons, wristbands, etc. [18:04] <+Merc|> Cool �01[18:04] <@SG1|Hereish> Oh yeah. [18:04] <~Madclaw> I have a great idea [18:04] <+Goodwood> Nina, I want to get revenge, not arrested. [18:04] <+Merc|> I'd be willing �01[18:04] <@SG1|Hereish> And I aleady made one. [18:04] <+Goodwood> lol �01[18:04] <@SG1|Hereish> http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/supergeeky1/SFHWristBand.png [18:04] <~Madclaw> Jax Pavan action figures COLLECT THEM ALL [18:04] <+LO|away> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzbFBDnjr4M&NR=1#movie_player [18:04] <+Goodwood> I can also do designs, Geeky. �05[18:04] -SG1|Hereish- You have been pinged by Goodwood in #darthipedia: can also do designs, Geeky. [18:04] <+LO|away> Er [18:04] <+LO|away> WRong channel �01[18:04] <@SG1|Hereish> [18:04] <@SG1|Hereish> http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w152/supergeeky1/SFHWristBand.png [18:04] <+Goodwood> Madclaw: I'm going to dress up as a Jax Pavan [18:04] <+Merc|> Madclaw: XD �02[18:04] * +Readmesoon (~chatzilla@Darthipedia/User/Readmesoon) Quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]�) [18:05] <~Jedimca0> lol �01[18:05] <@SG1|Hereish> As Goodwood suggested, I'm gonna make a few of those wristbands and put Darth urls inside of them. �01[18:05] <@SG1|Hereish> And give about 20 of them to Wookieepedians as a sign of peace to give out. [18:05] <~Madclaw> lets put the CV discussion on hold untill we have somewhat more concrete idea'' s [18:05] <+Goodwood> hehe �01[18:05] <@SG1|Hereish> *-to give out [18:05] <+Goodwood> Per Madclaw. [18:05] <+Goodwood> Actually, I have a suggestion in that regard. [18:06] <+Goodwood> We put up a forum post to co-ordinate our activities. [18:06] <+Merc|> whats up Goodwood? [18:06] <+Goodwood> The overt ones, anyway. [18:06] <@StarNinja99> *doorprize :P �01[18:06] <@SG1|Hereish> Yeah. Like Wookieepedia has. �01[18:06] <@SG1|Hereish> Good idea. [18:06] <+Merc|> Goodwood: okay [18:06] <+Goodwood> We can discuss our own private vendettas elsewhere. �01[18:06] <@SG1|Hereish> Could be a good idea to setup a full page dedicated to conventions, seeing as we may decide to go to Comic-Con or something. [18:06] <@StarNinja99> where is comic-con held [18:06] <+Goodwood> Agreed. �06[18:07] * @StarNinja99 shys away from billeh slobers �01[18:07] <@SG1|Hereish> StarNinja99: Usually California. [18:07] <+Goodwood> lol [18:07] <~Madclaw> BILLY [18:07] <@StarNinja99> Once again [18:07] <~Madclaw> He has to join us at CV [18:07] <@StarNinja99> Not gonna happen :/ [18:07] <+Merc|> ping BillyArrowsmith [18:07] <+Goodwood> Bah @ California [18:07] <@Enochf> Will Cat Taber be at C5? ^_^ [18:07] <+Goodwood> lol [18:07] <@Enochf> That may influence my decision [18:07] <+Goodwood> She looks nothing like Mission, Enochf. [18:07] <@Enochf> I can close my eyes and just listen [18:08] <+Goodwood> bwahahahaha [18:08] <@StarNinja99> anyways, anything other than CV? [18:08] <+Goodwood> I got nothing. [18:08] <~Jedimca0> Anyway... is that all? [18:08] <@StarNinja99> hokay [18:08] <@StarNinja99> per Jed [18:08] <~Jedimca0> anyone else have something to say? �01[18:08] <@SG1|Hereish> That be abll. [18:08] <@Enochf> All for me �01[18:08] <@SG1|Hereish> *all [18:08] <+Goodwood> NO MOAR COB [18:08] <~Madclaw> more last rounds? [18:08] <@StarNinja99> I was supposed to be out the door eight minutes ago �01[18:09] <@SG1|Hereish> Yeah, let's discuss Goodwood's thing. [18:09] <+Goodwood> Nina: Get your rear in gear! �01[18:09] <@SG1|Hereish> I agree. We should never have anymore COBs. [18:09] <+Goodwood> XD [18:09] <@StarNinja99> XD [18:09] <~Jedimca0> XD �01[18:09] <@SG1|Hereish> All we do is spend thirty minutes discussing templates. [18:09] <@Enochf> Meeting adjourned forever! [18:09] <~Jedimca0> then I wish all Darth Partings. [18:09] <+Goodwood> NEIN! [18:09] <@StarNinja99> Can I bid darth greetings? [18:09] <+Goodwood> Darth Greetings [18:09] <@StarNinja99> Or, darth partings [18:09] <~Jedimca0> the beer is in the corner. [18:09] <@Enochf> Can I just break in and say this is the first time I've ever been on television? [18:09] <~Madclaw> Darth partings http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=barLaHrtvoM [18:09] <@StarNinja99> I BID YOU ALL... �03[18:09] * Goodwood was kicked by Madclaw (Madclaw�) [18:09] <@StarNinja99> DARTH PARTINGS